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#21 Zach6668

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 06:30 PM

View Postdigitalmonkey, on Saturday, November 4th, 2006, 9:15 PM, said:

http://www.nhl.com/n...mp;service=pageThe Afinogenov under is a lock!
lol, nice.I can hear Serge crying all the way up here in the north though...
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Posted 04 November 2006 - 06:49 PM

Pretty good night so far, especially if we win the St.Louis game.
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Posted 04 November 2006 - 07:28 PM

I'm going to take the Rangers over the sabres on sunday for $500 at +145
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Posted 04 November 2006 - 08:22 PM

11/04/06 $500 Maxim Afinegonov U 0.5 Points +2.70 (win $1350) How good was that bet? Seriously, he may end up averaging a point a game but I'll take that price all day long. He generally scores in bunches...
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Posted 05 November 2006 - 10:31 AM

View PostDanielNegreanu, on Saturday, November 4th, 2006, 8:22 PM, said:

11/04/06 $500 Maxim Afinegonov U 0.5 Points +2.70 (win $1350) How good was that bet? Seriously, he may end up averaging a point a game but I'll take that price all day long. He generally scores in bunches...
Great bet.... I really like the over under on scoring bets.... with a little insight, you can eat those lines up, I think....
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Posted 05 November 2006 - 05:17 PM

CURRENT RECORD11/04 Iginla UNDER .5 LOSS (-$500)11/04 Modano UNDER .5 WIN (+$645)11/05Sabres vs RANGERS- Ranger win @ + 145 (PUSH)06/11 Flyers @ Leafs -1.5 @ +165 $500 WIN +$82506/11 Stars -1.5 @ Canucks + 220 $500 LOSS 06/11 Pens - Over 27.5 shots + 110 $500 LOSS06/11 Ovechkin-under .5 pts + 160 $500 LOSSRunning Total= $8,970-$130
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Posted 05 November 2006 - 05:51 PM

View Postgruven, on Sunday, November 5th, 2006, 7:17 PM, said:

06/11 Flyers @ Leafs -1.5 @ +165 $50006/11 Stars -1.5 @ Canucks + 220 $500
I'd rather not show my ignorance here, but what does all this mean exactly?

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Posted 05 November 2006 - 06:34 PM

View Postnell789, on Sunday, November 5th, 2006, 5:51 PM, said:

I'd rather not show my ignorance here, but what does all this mean exactly?
The 1.5 is the goal line. If it's Toronto -1.5 that means Toronto would have to win by 2. The next number is the money line, +2.20 would mean that if you bet 1.00 you'd win 2.20.
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Posted 05 November 2006 - 09:12 PM

aren't these results missing the vig? IE shouldn't it cost more if you lose, or win you less if you win? The vig has to come some where, doesn't it?
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Posted 06 November 2006 - 03:15 AM

View PostBigDMcGee, on Sunday, November 5th, 2006, 9:12 PM, said:

aren't these results missing the vig? IE shouldn't it cost more if you lose, or win you less if you win? The vig has to come some where, doesn't it?
Basically, you pay vig when you bet on favorites and they lose. For example, let's say you bet San Jose at home to LA. The line on San Jose might be -1.70. That means that if you want to win 1.00 you have to lay 1.70. If you bet LA, you'd only get +1.50. So there you can see the vig. If they get 10 people to bet on LA and 10 people to bet on San Jose they can't lose.
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Posted 06 November 2006 - 11:49 AM

My first post on this forum. I usually only read DN's blog (which is awesome) and some random threads, but being a former pro hockey player and moving out to Vegas since my retirement this past summer, I have started to take up NHL betting as well, and believe I have a distinct edge on the public with my hockey background and understanding of the players mentality. Plus it helps to have a few friends still playing lol. I hope to share with you some of my picks as well. Any other hockey people from Vegas? Not too many of us here. DN, congratulations on all your success, and I have to say your insight on specific hands within your blog has greatly improved my game. Thank youTonights games/analysis:Ottawa o6 -110Too much offense here on both sides for this total to go under. Ottawa has struggled offensively for the past two/three games, but they had the same performance prior to their offensive explosion against the Leafs a week ago. Look for this offense to take advantage of another weak defensive team.Atlanta -190Laying a big number here for a reason. Boston's offense is anemic at best averaging only 2.6 GPG. Atlanta on the other hand has a GAA of 2.63 and an offensive scoring at a clip of 3.4 GPG. Lots of firepower potential here for Atlanta in this spot. Atlanta is 10-3 at home in its last 13 as well.

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 01:21 PM

Ok this is fun since i love to bet on sports....First day betting,Br = 10 000Washington Capitals +0.5 -116 +140, $500Tampa Bay Lightning +0.5 -146 +110, $500Vancouver Canucks +0.5 -142 +115 , $500Ill also take Pittsburg Over 27.5 shots on goal +112, $500And Toronto Over 32.5 s.o.g + 123, $500

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 01:26 PM

View PostDanielNegreanu, on Monday, November 6th, 2006, 6:15 AM, said:

Basically, you pay vig when you bet on favorites and they lose. For example, let's say you bet San Jose at home to LA. The line on San Jose might be -1.70. That means that if you want to win 1.00 you have to lay 1.70. If you bet LA, you'd only get +1.50. So there you can see the vig. If they get 10 people to bet on LA and 10 people to bet on San Jose they can't lose.
fwiw, the vig is not just applied to the favourite, though its easier to think of it that way. the vig is taken on all bets equally. sometimes its argued that its relatively lower on underdogs. i disagree with that, but don't have the statistical knowledge to argue it.but yeah, not only on the favourite.i'll probably start a 'betting account' in this thread the next few days when i get around to it. should be fun.
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Posted 06 November 2006 - 01:42 PM

View PostDanielNegreanu, on Monday, November 6th, 2006, 3:15 AM, said:

Basically, you pay vig when you bet on favorites and they lose. For example, let's say you bet San Jose at home to LA. The line on San Jose might be -1.70. That means that if you want to win 1.00 you have to lay 1.70. If you bet LA, you'd only get +1.50. So there you can see the vig. If they get 10 people to bet on LA and 10 people to bet on San Jose they can't lose.
ah... the only form of sports betting I'm familar with is football, which is like 11/10 sort of vig. I don't ever wager with bookies, as you can proably tell, and I only wager on sports against fans of the team who are willing to make rediculous wagers
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Posted 06 November 2006 - 01:51 PM

View Postsp227, on Monday, November 6th, 2006, 11:49 AM, said:

My first post on this forum. I usually only read DN's blog (which is awesome) and some random threads, but being a former pro hockey player and moving out to Vegas since my retirement this past summer, I have started to take up NHL betting as well, and believe I have a distinct edge on the public with my hockey background and understanding of the players mentality. Plus it helps to have a few friends still playing lol. I hope to share with you some of my picks as well. Any other hockey people from Vegas? Not too many of us here. DN, congratulations on all your success, and I have to say your insight on specific hands within your blog has greatly improved my game. Thank youTonights games/analysis:Ottawa o6 -110Too much offense here on both sides for this total to go under. Ottawa has struggled offensively for the past two/three games, but they had the same performance prior to their offensive explosion against the Leafs a week ago. Look for this offense to take advantage of another weak defensive team.Atlanta -190Laying a big number here for a reason. Boston's offense is anemic at best averaging only 2.6 GPG. Atlanta on the other hand has a GAA of 2.63 and an offensive scoring at a clip of 3.4 GPG. Lots of firepower potential here for Atlanta in this spot. Atlanta is 10-3 at home in its last 13 as well.
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Posted 06 November 2006 - 02:56 PM

View Postmrdannyg, on Monday, November 6th, 2006, 3:26 PM, said:

i'll probably start a 'betting account' in this thread the next few days when i get around to it. should be fun.
Or you could play $5 and $10 Sports Select tickets on a bankroll of real money. That's what I've started doing recently. I'm going to have to keep an eye on myself though, I can see how it's addicting.Side bet? Who can make the most money playing Proline in the month of November playing only <=$10 tickets?

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 03:05 PM

View Postserge, on Monday, November 6th, 2006, 1:51 PM, said:

Welcome to the forums..So will you tell us who you are...or at least tell us if you played in the NHL???
I never played a game in the NHL. I played mainly in the AHL and ECHL. You wouldn't recognize my name unless you were a die hard fan that followed those leagues. On the other topic of vigs, most casinos/online books offer a twenty cent line in hockey (i.e. if the favorite is -140 the underdog is +120). This is done because hockey is a low volume betting sport and does not create enough action for the books to warrant a ten cent line like they do for MLB. Although the Hilton in Vegas is offering a dime line to bettors to try and attract more play. Here is an article on it in the Las Vegas Sun before the season started...http://www.lasvegass.../566677773.html

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 03:38 PM

View Postsp227, on Monday, November 6th, 2006, 3:05 PM, said:

I never played a game in the NHL. I played mainly in the AHL and ECHL. You wouldn't recognize my name unless you were a die hard fan that followed those leagues. On the other topic of vigs, most casinos/online books offer a twenty cent line in hockey (i.e. if the favorite is -140 the underdog is +120). This is done because hockey is a low volume betting sport and does not create enough action for the books to warrant a ten cent line like they do for MLB. Although the Hilton in Vegas is offering a dime line to bettors to try and attract more play. Here is an article on it in the Las Vegas Sun before the season started...http://www.lasvegass.../566677773.html
My cousin played for Portland Last year in the AHL so i follow it quite regularly. What team did you play for, maybe you faught him or something.LOL

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 05:23 PM

View PostBen_G, on Monday, November 6th, 2006, 3:38 PM, said:

My cousin played for Portland Last year in the AHL so i follow it quite regularly. What team did you play for, maybe you faught him or something.LOL
I played for Rochester last year, but I didn't play against Portland. Who is your cousin?

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Posted 06 November 2006 - 05:46 PM

View Postsp227, on Monday, November 6th, 2006, 11:49 AM, said:

Atlanta -190Laying a big number here for a reason. Boston's offense is anemic at best averaging only 2.6 GPG. Atlanta on the other hand has a GAA of 2.63 and an offensive scoring at a clip of 3.4 GPG. Lots of firepower potential here for Atlanta in this spot. Atlanta is 10-3 at home in its last 13 as well.
You might end up winning this bet, but I think it was a big mistake. A friend of mine actually took Boston and had this to say:On Saturday night we mentioned that they Thrashers were in the midst of a grueling schedule and that they’re chances of winning on the Island were not very good at all. Well, they won, 4-, however, it wasn’t because they were sharp. The Thrashers were flat but the Islanders were even flatter. In fact, Atlanta managed just nine shots on net in the final two periods and just 18 for the entire game. Now the Thrashers travel home to make this their ninth game in 14 nights and every game during that stretch they’ve had to board a plane to get to their next destination. This is a tired hockey team that has been lethargic its past two games and we don’t see that changing here. The Bruins came up with a big finish in their last game, scoring in the final minute to tie it and than scoring in OT to win it. Bruins have picked up points in three consecutive games (two wins and a shootout loss), beating Ottawa and Tampa and losing a shootout to the Sabres.
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