shrimp4789 0 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Ok this site doesnt comply with any "formatting" sites, so Im going to try and format it myself lolTable #225312 - Tournament #112886 Table #6Starting Hand #12542231Last Hand #12542152Game Type: Hold'emLimit Type: No LimitTable Type: TournamentBlinds are now $50/$100Seat 1: awesum - $1365Seat 2: calag - $1645Seat 3: SWANNY - $1605Seat 4: shrimp4789 - $2830Seat 5: Peacedout - $3085Dealing [A Q ] to shrimp4789calag calls $100SWANNY calls $100shrimp4789 raises to $500Peacedout calls $500awesum foldscalag calls $500SWANNY raises to $1605 (all-in)shrimp4789 foldsPeacedout raises to $3085 (all-in)calag calls $1645 (all-in)Dealing Flop [5 3 A ]Dealing Turn [7 ]Dealing River [J ]Please comment on the fold....I will explain my reasoning afterdamnit i keep forgetting to post in right forum Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 wow, what a donktastic hand.... 2 limpers, you raise 5x (which is right, IMO) a caller, first limper folds, 2nd limper PUSHES? I've seen this done w/ a medium pair, or even A10+.... I'd overpush on him, I take it you had some read on the guy who called your raise initially, which is why you folded?BTW: What's the buyin? Link to post Share on other sites
shrimp4789 0 Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 lol a real cheap one, $2. Freezeout style to lol. i dont have the br for real large stakes at the moment but ive cashed in this last 4 days str8 so i enjoy it Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 im gonna guess you folded because you figured youre at best flipping coins and one of your aces is probobly taken. i think this is a good fold. Link to post Share on other sites
shrimp4789 0 Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 Here is my thinking on this hand in order of how things happened:1. Table is somewhat passive, and a raise should knock out the players and take blinds2. Hmm ok peace called. hes still steaming about a hand I beat him on earlier...no problem, im sure im ahead. Putting him on A-J at very best...though I doubt even that.3. calag calls....hmm no signs of strenth from him...maybe KJ, maybe weak ace...its a $2 tourney....i dont expect much4. swanny pushes - hmmm. i thought a while about this one. at best i thought it was a coin flip...for what...80% of my chips? i hadnt raised so much i couldnt get away from the hand, but the fold would hurt me a bit.5. still thinkin....with 2 others who i have a feeling min 1 of them will call, that puts my Aq into a fairly poor position, esp with my putting the 2 limpers with a ace...meaning 1 ace left and 3 queens...not great odds... Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 My only comment is that we are getting a SICK price to call here, especially when their range is more than likely huge. Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 That push is almost always an underpair. Act accordingly. Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I think in this spot, he's just pushing because he feels pot-commited, and he doesn't necessarily have anything good. I don't think he was planning to limp-raise, and I certainly wouldn't give him credit for AA/KK. Also, you have 1100 to call into a 4400 chip pot. You're getting the right price to play against anything except AA including AK and KK. You really have to push here, and hope at least one of the cold-callers goes away. Link to post Share on other sites
shrimp4789 0 Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 its actually 1100 to call 3450.....so you guys think i should have called? esp considering my chip stack and everything else? Link to post Share on other sites
James D 0 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I definately would have pushed all in, after MP2 pushed - in an attempt to isolate your hand.With the way the hand was played, it's so hard to give ANY of them credit for a big hand (AA, KK, QQ, AK) that would have you dominated... especially in a $2 tournament.Therefore you are getting fantastic odds to push. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Yeah, this is a shove. If it was the first limper that moved in you may have more of a close decision. Link to post Share on other sites
shrimp4789 0 Posted November 4, 2006 Author Share Posted November 4, 2006 thanks for moving the post for me.ok will keep what you guys have said in mind for the future. cheers Link to post Share on other sites
AcesUp46 0 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Yes, this is a reshove. The limp-shover's line reeks of an underpair and you're getting an amazing price to flip with all the dead money. Factor in the chance that he has a smaller Ace than you and you're swimming in boat loads of EV. Link to post Share on other sites
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