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sorry this reply took forever, i had to finish cleaning the vomit off of my lap from reading your original post.
That's very clever cmills, yet, hmmmm, strangely you provide no counterargument. Hmmm, that's kind of idiotic if you ask me.
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(Raymer is the all time WSOP money winner, is he the greatest WSOP player of all time? correct me if i'm wrong).
Again, your point here is.....retarded. That was
ONE tournament versus Daniel accomplishments in well lets see.....Paris (7th, season 2) Caribbean, PPMIII, Shooting Star (season 2) , Borgata and now the 5 diamond.Not to mention there was more than one game in Daniel's case.
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Daniel had an amazing year in tournaments , fantastic year in fact, but to call him the greatest player of all time is idiotic.
Stunning argument, just brilliant.
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I would contend that when Johnny Moss was playing the games were nowhere near as tough as they are now. The technology and the available resources to players now I think just sets the modern player way ahead of players back then. Also, he only won the WSOP twice (Now I am just waiting for someone to make the idiotic claim he won it 3 times--I suggest you look further into this one before you make the claim---if you are thinking it, just bow your head in shame) and the fields were tiny.
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Amarillo Slim(e) is a joke, Johnny Moss said it himself. I'm not going to go to the trouble of finding that quote, but I am sure if you looked for it you could find it. He was an angle shooter, a hustler and a mediocre player at best. It's no coincidence Ivey slaughtered him heads up in 2000 for the PLO bracelet. There is just NO WAYYYYY he could hack it in the big game
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Again foolishness. He would get killed in a high stakes cash game.
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Ok, now this one I could see. Doyle is no doubt one of the best and it is hard to compare an old schooler with one of the new kids. So on this point I say ok, yeah, maybe.
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But to say that he's the best ever is utterly ridiculous and he'd be the first to tell you. I don't have to go into why, since all the problems with your statement have already been said.
Yeah there haven't been any Einstein. As I said, I conceded to the point that it is too hard to compare people like Chip, Doyle, and Greenstein, so one has reached an impass. All I am saying is this: Daniel has the most distinguished tourney record of the last decade I would contend. The card player POY has been around for quite a few years I thought (I wanna see Hellmuth won it in '96) . It is the fact that he is able to dominate these record fields as well as compete in the biggest cash games in the world put him in a very elite class.To quote Barry Greenstein
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Daniels Bellagio WPT performance to capture the 2004 Card Player Player of the Year award was nothing short of historic. He also won the WSOP Player of the Year award pretty impressive.
All Greenstein can say about Daniel's weakness at the table is "Efforts to balance his life lessen his money-making ability"Peace,Joe[/i]
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