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[69suited]

5 people take a flop I have 7, 7 in late position, which I also call. 8 left in the tourney.I am 2nd in chips.Flop comes 7d,6c,d10First position guy CHECKS (plays top pair too strong and likes to go all in)Second positon CHECKS (bad player, just won a huge pot, called a LARGE all in bet with Jc5c preflop the other guy had QQ) HE SAID THEY WERE SUITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!3rd guy checks, 4th bets 100 (min) and I raise to 600(see where we are at and take out a couple of players.First position, goes all in for 1,400 and 2nd position calls, fold fold and I call for 800 more.First position has 9,10 (top pair)Second position has Jd,8d (flush draw and gut shot straight)Turn 7d,6c,10d,2s 2nd pos checks I go all in (which I could have avoided to see the river for free)First position has 9,10 (top pair)Second position has Jd,8d (flush draw and gut shot straight)River obviously is the 4d, Now the only question I have is can you fold the best hand on the flop, I would still be 2nd or 3rd in chips if I fold.

[rollito]

well its a tough fold but even with your set you aren't that biga favorite against a flush draw and straight draw.....although i don't know if its correct to fold there....depends on the type of player player two was.....but i think that just calling the all in was wrong.....either fold or come back over the top all in and go from there....i think its either all in or fold in that spot

[Absolute]

but they were soooooooooooooooooted

[69suited]

Absolute said:

but they were soooooooooooooooooted

That is what he was saying the whole tournament!!!!!!!!I will be playing that tournament every Sunday!

[69suited]

XXEddie said:

...I also wanna add that once first posistion went allin, you shoulda pushed toobut here are the oddsyou-56.6%the J8s guy-34.1%the T9 dude-9.3%

8 players left, 3 get paid, gotta take the chance, I would have been the chip leader with probably 7000 and the next highest at 2000 with the blinds at 100-200.The reason I was asking was I could have been in good shape with 2000 if I fold.

[balvord]

I got busted out of a ring game yesterday on an almost identical hand, except my opponent had actually flopped the straight. 8 9 should have gone into your thought process too.I would always call in a ring game, but in a tourney I think there's a good argument for folding. If you think you are a much stronger player than these other two players, why not wait for a situation where you know you have them beat to take their chips.It's be a helluva tough fold though.

[TJ_Eckleburg]

A rivered flush against a set will happen... always has and always will. He'll always be about 2:1 to hit his flush, but you've still got the boat redraw on him. There's no way you could have laid down a set there for any action, unless you somehow thought there was a limp with TT. And even then, you probably have to pay off TT.But that wasn't what you were up against. You were up against top pair (drawing nearly dead to his gutshot or a running boat) and a 13-out flush/gutshot draw. You did exactly what you had to do... and that is make top pair pay for his foolish ways and overcharge the drawers to draw. If they never caught there wouldn't be a game.So keep your chin up, and keep confidently betting sets. They'll hold up in the long run.

[creepy20]

I can't ever see releasing the set in this instance..like the last poster said..it will pay out in the long run. If your set gets cracked..move on to the next tourny.