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[109suited]

Absolute Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with Ah, Tc. 2 folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls.The preflop raiser had been raising like an absolute maniac. I thought it was possible that he had a small pocket pair or even a K high hand. Flop: (6 SB) Th, Ac, Qs (3 players)SB bets, SB calls, Hero calls.Turn: (7.50 BB) 9d (3 players)SB bets, SB calls, Hero calls.River: (13.50 BB) Ts (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, Hero calls.Final Pot: 17.31 BBThoughts?

[wrto4556]

3-bet the river, call a cap.I actually fold this preflop...but since he's a loose raiser (i suppose) it's OK.

[109suited]

I normally fold A10 to any raise, but this guy was just consistently turning over KJo and 33 when he raised. Didn't matter if he was out of position or had 3 ep callers. He just kept doing it. I felt pretty comfortable with my hand going to the flop. I was almost sure he didn't have me dominated. He very well could have, but I just didn't think so.

[holman3rd]

109suited said:

I normally fold A10 to any raise, but this guy was just consistently turning over KJo and 33 when he raised. Didn't matter if he was out of position or had 3 ep callers. He just kept doing it. I felt pretty comfortable with my hand going to the flop. I was almost sure he didn't have me dominated. He very well could have, but I just didn't think so.

Actually, I would have re-raised in this spot, given your read on the SB. MP limp smells like weakness, so perhaps my re-raise can isolate the SB and give me position. Yes, there's the risk that I could get re-raised, but if I call here I'm still exposed to MP re-raising and SB capping. I think re-raising is the better play here, given your read.

[Absolute]

Fold PFGo crazy on the river.

[holman3rd]

Absolute said:

Fold PFGo crazy on the river.

Please elaborate on your fold recommendation. Seems weak to me, given that this is a 3/6 game, a mp open-limped (weak) and a maniac SB raised (could be a wide range of hands here).I do not like calling here either.

[Absolute]

I don't understand why folding A-10 off to two bets cold is complicated.Maniac or none, when an ace spikes your 10 kicker is gonna pay for it.Unless it's that rare occasion where you flop two pair and river a boat.In that case, start playing A-8 off to raises too!

[KDawgCometh]

He's not calling two cold. He's in the BB so its only one more bet to him from a loose raiser that he has position on. Is there a reason to cap this flop? I think an argument could be made as MP1 could very well be raising to get you out of the poton the next street to get HU with the Maniac. I think a turn raise is in order and og course go nuts on the river

[Absolute]

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[Emptyeye]

Here I come, adding nothing new as usual.A10 a very raise-or-fold type hand. That said, given your read of maniac, why not try a 3-bet to isolate him?Besides that, I'd say cap the flop, and obviously go nuts on the river (Though if it's a limit game, that may be why you couldn't).

[109suited]

By the way, I couldn't cap the river b/c the guy was all in for only 1.63 more after I lead at the river. Since the raise was less than half of the 6 dollar bet, no other raise could be made. I believe that's the rule. Either that or Absolute is glitchy. lol

[wrto4556]

hey Kdawg, what do you put MP3 on. He limped and then gos nuts on the flop.TT? no...AA?no...QQ?no...hmmmKJ? probably. So why cap the flop. On the turn the pot is pretty big and with the implied odds he has enough to draw to 4 outs, which makes a call super easy.

[wrto4556]

why cap this flop???????

[Absolute]

wrto4556 said:

why cap this flop???????

So you can fall even more behind to 10-10, JK, or AQ.

[holman3rd]

Absolute said:

wrto4556 said:

why cap this flop???????

So you can fall even more behind to 10-10, JK, or AQ.

b/c this is 3/6 and there is a lot wider range of hands that would be raising against you here.If you cap it and opponents continue to bet into you on the turn, then check-call it down.no?

[KDawgCometh]

wrto4556 said:

hey Kdawg, what do you put MP3 on. He limped and then gos nuts on the flop.TT? no...AA?no...QQ?no...hmmmKJ? probably. So why cap the flop. On the turn the pot is pretty big and with the implied odds he has enough to draw to 4 outs, which makes a call super easy.

KJ is a possibility, but so is Q10 or Ax. I just said that there coul be an argument here for capping. Without reads its kinda hard to define what he really could have as he could be a smart player trying get HU with a maniac

[wrto4556]

or KT along with QT.Of the possible hands KT & QT we have beat, KJ has us stomped to four outs.Maybe raising is goot.

[KDawgCometh]

wrto4556 said:

or KT along with QT.Of the possible hands KT & QT we have beat, KJ has us stomped to four outs.Maybe raising is goot.

maybe maybe not. I don't think the hand was misplayed at all. Its just hard to put MP1 on a range of hands without any reads