5 replies to this topic

[TheCinciKid]

The table is somewhat shorthanded, but I don't think that's really relevant here.

1/2 Hold'em on FullTilt

Hero is BB with 44 (suits irrelevant)

Pre-flop - UTG limps, MP Limps, Hero checks. (3.5 small bets)

Flop - A4x - Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks. (3.5 small bets)

Turn - A - Hero checks, UTG bets, MP folds, Hero raises, UTG calls (5.5 big bets)

River - A - Hero???

Is this a clear check/fold? Does anyone check/call. For that matter, were the flop and turn checks bad? Obv we're going for a check/raise on both streets, but I'm not sure that's the best play.

[antistuff]

yes the checks were very bad.

i probobly check/call the river.

[DonkSlayer]

River is a check/call, especially since you only have 2.5 bb's invested into the pot when you had a boat on the turn (yikes).

And, since you didn't get 3-bet on the turn, that "x" on the flop had better be a 3 or 2, or otherwise it matters a lot in this hand.

[Acid_Knight]

Was there a possible flush draw available on the turn?

The "x" really does matter, as DonkSlayer pointed out. Depending on the villain, I am willing to check fold here. You certainly can't come out betting, but I don't think that check calling is horrible.

Against most villains, I'd lean towards the check-fold if he's willing to bet.

[GamblinLeaf]

I have converted to the church of fast play. Hand plays totally different and, I believe, much easier that way.

[CoranMoran]

Question 1: Why do people try to check-raise random limpers on the flop?

Question 2: Why do people try to check-raise random limpers on the turn who already checked down the flop??

I get most of my profits in LHE from loose villains who love to chase when way behind.
But they can't make these horribly loose calls unless you bet!

I feel you go for check-raises far too often.
Play more straightforward.
Make more money.

Check-call river


--CM