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[109suited]

Hey guys, just wondered what hands are playable from the sb. I know it depends on a few things. Maybe we could discuss those here also. I know playing bad hands from the sb is definitely a leak of mine, and I'd like to fix it. Thanks in advance for the input.scott

[wrto4556]

limp with any two suited cards and any two cards higher than ten.NOT A8o, K9o, J8o or any of that garbage.

[tskillz187]

I agree with limping with any two cards above 10, I dont know about limping with any two suited cards that seems a little loose to me, I limp with any two suited connecters or gappers.

[wrto4556]

:wink:

[NormanHaupt]

I complete with any two suited cards no problem. when the flop hits you know exactly how its ging to go.either you hit two flush on the flop, or you don't. Either you hit trips or two pair on the flop, or you don't. Either you hit OESD or gutshot or you don't.hit any of them and you call the impending bet (or reraise it if you really hit). If not, you check fold it down. easy as pie to play, in my opinion.some people play any A from there but I started losing a ton of money so I stopped

[tskillz187]

Hmmmm... I'm sure the difference is very minimal here, I see your guys' point but I just don't know if it's right. Where have you seen it say that it has a +EV? Im not assuming you guys are wrong, just hoping to get a definitive answer to improve my own sb play.

[tskillz187]

NormanHaupt said:

I complete with any two suited cards no problem. when the flop hits you know exactly how its ging to go.either you hit two flush on the flop, or you don't. Either you hit trips or two pair on the flop, or you don't. Either you hit OESD or gutshot or you don't.hit any of them and you call the impending bet (or reraise it if you really hit). If not, you check fold it down. easy as pie to play, in my opinion.some people play any A from there but I started losing a ton of money so I stopped. I also like playing midrange Kxs. K7s and up, but thats a personal preference. I should probably knock it off.

You contradicted yourself... saying you play any two suited cards, then saying you only play k7s and better... did you mean any two suited connectors?

[NormanHaupt]

Well, wrto converted me into a sklansky nut. He's got a chart in SSHE (Small Stakes Hold'em) that tells you exactly what to play at what tables in what position preflop. Its all mathamatically based to provide you +ev. Some of it is shakey, in my opinion, since not all tables are tight or loose, but, in general, its a great place to start.if you have MSN, fire me a pm using the link on the left under my name

[NormanHaupt]

tskillz187 said:

NormanHaupt said:

I complete with any two suited cards no problem. when the flop hits you know exactly how its ging to go.either you hit two flush on the flop, or you don't. Either you hit trips or two pair on the flop, or you don't. Either you hit OESD or gutshot or you don't.hit any of them and you call the impending bet (or reraise it if you really hit). If not, you check fold it down. easy as pie to play, in my opinion.some people play any A from there but I started losing a ton of money so I stopped. I also like playing midrange Kxs. K7s and up, but thats a personal preference. I should probably knock it off.

You contradicted yourself... saying you play any two suited cards, then saying you only play k7s and better... did you mean any two suited connectors?

Yeah, realised I was talkin SB and not button/cut off. I edited my post before I saw your reply, lol

[Absolute]

also you can complete with K10 or Q10 in the SB.

[Wilderness]

wrto4556 said:

limp with any two suited cards and any two cards higher than ten.NOT A8o, K9o, J8o or any of that garbage.

That's pretty much my thoughts exactly. A lot of people seem to want to play Ax or Kx in the SB, but I think those are -EV plays.

[NorthPacific]

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I complete with any two suited cards no problem. when the flop hits you know exactly how its ging to go. either you hit two flush on the flop, or you don't. Either you hit trips or two pair on the flop, or you don't. Either you hit OESD or gutshot or you don't. hit any of them and you call the impending bet (or reraise it if you really hit). If not, you check fold it down. easy as pie to play, in my opinion.

What do you do if you hit top pair no kicker, say you complete with 59s and the flop comes 269 rainbow.I bet this because of only having limpers in the pot with me. I have noticed that I have been runing into slop played high pp a lot when I do this, but I do win a fair amount as well.

[Emptyeye]

NorthPacific said:

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I complete with any two suited cards no problem. when the flop hits you know exactly how its ging to go.  either you hit two flush on the flop, or you don't. Either you hit trips or two pair on the flop, or you don't. Either you hit OESD or gutshot or you don't.  hit any of them and you call the impending bet (or reraise it if you really hit). If not, you check fold it down. easy as pie to play, in my opinion.

What do you do if you hit top pair no kicker, say you complete with 59s and the flop comes 269 rainbow.I bet this because of only having limpers in the pot with me. I have noticed that I have been runing into slop played high pp a lot when I do this, but I do win a fair amount as well.

I fire at it once as well. It's important to remember that the flop probably missed everyone else worse than it missed you, so it's possible that everyone will fold and I'll win it right there.