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[brvheart]

Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
10 players
Converter

HERO DEALT AQ DIAMONDS IN BB

Pre-flop: (10 players)
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 raises, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Should I reraise preflop?

Flop: 2 5 3 (12.5SB, 6 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds.

Is this flop worth a call? Or should've I folded? I figure I'm way behind and if I don't improve I will fold the turn.

Turn: 7 (8.25BB, 4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets, Button calls, Hero raises, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Would anyone else raise here? I figured I would check the river if I miss.... but I have my doubts on whether or not it was a wise play.

River: 2 (14.25BB, 3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, Button folds, Hero 3-bets, MP3 calls.


Results:
Final pot: 20.25BB



Should I play this different? Should I fold on the flop? I seriously don't know if I played it right, even though it turned out ok for me.

Thanks in advance.

[CptCrunch]

Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
10 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (10 players)
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 raises, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.
Flop: 2♣ 5♦ 3♣ (12.5SB, 6 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds.
Turn: 7♦ (8.25BB, 4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets, Button calls, Hero raises, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls, Button calls.
River: 2♦ (14.25BB, 3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, Button folds, Hero 3-bets, MP3 calls.
Results:
Final pot: 20.25BB
Should I play this different? Should I fold on the flop? I seriously don't know if I played it right, even though it turned out ok for me.

Thanks in advance.

What do you have?

[rwood]

you must really suck if they wont even deal you in.

[brvheart]

Sorry guys, apparently I suck at posting ON limit holdem as well... My original post is fixed.

[Swift_Psycho]

Don't include results if you want unbiased responses.

I don't raise the turn, I play the rest the same.

Any reads you might have always help as well btw.

[iggymcfly]

3-betting preflop is standard, as is calling the flop. On the turn, you want to just call since it's multiway, you're not going to fold the field, and you want as many people in as possible to pay off your nut flush if it hits. River's pretty standard.

Edited to say 3-betting preflop. That's what I meant, not 3-betting the flop and calling it. You've got the right idea rwood.

[rwood]

ummm is anyone else here raisin this hand PF? jeez your equity edge is shmignormous, other than that i agree w/ iggy.

[Knight_Owl]

I dont see any scare cards you could get this villian off of. I doubt you'll be raising w/ a deuce. And the river 3 bet accomplishs what? (Keep in mind its LIMIT!) Tough to push ppl off hands. Especially at this low limit.

gl 2 u!

[finztotheleft]

Yes

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Yes

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[Zach6668]

Dear Limit Gurus,

I'm not100% crazy about 3-betting PF here... should I be? Why?

- Rusty in Thunder Bay

[GamblinLeaf]

I think you played it fine. I would 3-bet PF against an open raiser, or if I was on the button, but in this spot I think it's pretty close. With 3 limpers and a cold-caller, we're actually about even money against the combination of the PF raiser and cold-caller's range. We do have equity against the limpers, but we're OOP for the whole hand which offsets that a lot, imo. So overall, pretty close.

Flop is an easy peel with as many as 10 outs, many of which are dirty, but we're getting an immediate 14.5 - 1.

Turn is close between a call and a raise, but I think I just call. I prefer more people in multi-way, but I think the raise is fine too.

River is standard. I throw up in my mouth a little bit if he caps.

Just my two cents.

[DonkSlayer]

Dear Limit Gurus,

As if.

I'm not100% crazy about 3-betting PF here... should I be? Why?

I would only accept the argument for 3 betting preflop if you do the same for any 19 or 20 that's suited (nor an A9)...including A10, KJ, K10, KQ.

[Zach6668]

As if.
I would only accept the argument for 3 betting preflop if you do the same for any 19 or 20 that's suited (nor an A9)...including A10, KJ, K10, KQ.

Ya, if we're doing it to pump our equity edge with a sooted broadway, then I'm cool.

But if we think we are ahead of the UTG or EP raiser, or whatever it was, let me remind you that SSHE says fold AQ to an EP raise, but obv given the callers in between, and the fact we are sooted, then we can def cold call here, at least.

[TheCinciKid]

Ya, if we're doing it to pump our equity edge with a sooted broadway, then I'm cool.

But if we think we are ahead of the UTG or EP raiser, or whatever it was, let me remind you that SSHE says fold AQ to an EP raise, but obv given the callers in between, and the fact we are sooted, then we can def cold call here, at least.

SSHE actually says to cold-call with AQs. It's one of like 3 cold-calling hands. I'm with you on not being 100% crazy about 3-bettting. I think it's a close decision. We have an equity edge against the field, but we are also facing the 3 EP callers with 2 bets cold and we might end up with a couple of folds. I'd almost rather just play the hand out without raising. I don't think there's anything wrong with either play.

[davezz5]

Ring Game:- due to postion and early limpers call sooted.

Ring Game:-due to positon and early limpers fold un-sooted (dont think this holding could really stand a re-raise).

Short handed raise either sooted or not.

Not sure whether call on flop or fold. depends on opponents. Play other streets the same.

[Abbaddabba]

There was never an option to 3bet preflop in this hand.

I dont know what hand all of you are looking at.

[Zach6668]

There was never an option to 3bet preflop in this hand.

I dont know what hand all of you are looking at.

You drunk?

[Abbaddabba]

... yes.

[Zach6668]

... yes.

Upon looking closer though, we are in the BB, and I'm most definitely not 3-betting it from there.

[brvheart]

ok, so let's say that the flop was all black.... do I still call on the flop? With just my 2 overs and a 4 for a str8? Or was my backdoor diamond draw what made it wise to call? How many 'outs' do I typically need to call a flop bet when I basically 'miss' the flop?

Thanks for all the responses.