1/2 Nl Live
Started by Naismith, Oct 26 2006 11:19 PM
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#1
Posted 26 October 2006 - 11:19 PM
We're playing eight or nine handed. I am playing very tight. I've shown a couple of bluffs because I planned on playing a different style and I am normally the most aggressive player in the game.
I am on the button with 390 in front of me.
-UTG raises to 7 (which is standard). He is wild. This is his third raise in a row.
-Folds to the CO who flat calls. CO thinks he is a pro but plays pretty straight forward. He will make decent folds. I've shown him a bluff earlier when he raised preflop, I reraised and then bet the flop.
I look down at a monster hand, 10d3c. I bump it up to 30. Both guys call. They each have me covered.
Flop is 10c-9c-3s.
Checks to our hero who...?
A couple of notes:
UTG is likely to bluff off all his chips at any moment. He was playing tighter than normal, but in the past would be willing to check-raise here with anything from bottom pair to a gutshot.
The CO has tried to get tricky before and played a pair of jacks exactly the same way earlier (calling a raise and then smooth calling a reraise). He doesn't run bluffs, though, at least not against the aggressor.
Generally in this game, a reraise is pretty respected. I take a lot of pots like this where I reraise preflop and take a decent-sized pot with a c-bet against some of the more conservative players like the CO.
I am on the button with 390 in front of me.
-UTG raises to 7 (which is standard). He is wild. This is his third raise in a row.
-Folds to the CO who flat calls. CO thinks he is a pro but plays pretty straight forward. He will make decent folds. I've shown him a bluff earlier when he raised preflop, I reraised and then bet the flop.
I look down at a monster hand, 10d3c. I bump it up to 30. Both guys call. They each have me covered.
Flop is 10c-9c-3s.
Checks to our hero who...?
A couple of notes:
UTG is likely to bluff off all his chips at any moment. He was playing tighter than normal, but in the past would be willing to check-raise here with anything from bottom pair to a gutshot.
The CO has tried to get tricky before and played a pair of jacks exactly the same way earlier (calling a raise and then smooth calling a reraise). He doesn't run bluffs, though, at least not against the aggressor.
Generally in this game, a reraise is pretty respected. I take a lot of pots like this where I reraise preflop and take a decent-sized pot with a c-bet against some of the more conservative players like the CO.
Peace,
Jay

Jay

#2
Posted 27 October 2006 - 01:46 AM
How much to bet depends on the players stacks, but you only provided your stack size. Most of the time I would bet 2/3rds of the pot here. So with 90 in there, i'd bet about 60. Not betting here just makes it seem like you have a monster, and you'd hate to check and let off another connecting club or a 9. From the way you're describing the hand, it almost sounds like you lost, so i wouldnt be suprised to see if the villain had 9s.
#3
Posted 27 October 2006 - 01:58 AM
They both had me covered, but not by much. I'm going to guess that they had 450 or so each, but I don't know. I just know they had four stacks in front of them and almost all of us stack in hundreds.
Peace,
Jay

Jay

#5
Posted 27 October 2006 - 07:06 AM
With the T9 combo and 2 clubs presenting so many draws, I'm gonna go ahead and bet the whole pot here.
Here are the reasons why:
It might look like a bluff with AK because the bet is so large
My hand, while almost positive it's ahead, is easily drawn out on by a lot of hands
It'll basically cost someone their whole stack to play back at me
You disguise the strength of your hand
You don't mind taking the pot down right here.
After all, your whole goal was to take it down preflop with your garbage, and that failed, so do it here.
PS - You have a sweet backdoor club draw!
Here are the reasons why:
It might look like a bluff with AK because the bet is so large
My hand, while almost positive it's ahead, is easily drawn out on by a lot of hands
It'll basically cost someone their whole stack to play back at me
You disguise the strength of your hand
You don't mind taking the pot down right here.
After all, your whole goal was to take it down preflop with your garbage, and that failed, so do it here.
PS - You have a sweet backdoor club draw!
#6
Posted 27 October 2006 - 08:42 AM
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Friday, October 27th, 2006, 8:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
With the T9 combo and 2 clubs presenting so many draws, I'm gonna go ahead and bet the whole pot here.
AGREE!
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#7
Posted 27 October 2006 - 09:11 AM
Okay, hero bets 75.
UTG folds.
CO goes into the tank. He asks if the dealer can count the pot. The dealer says no, so he asks to spread the pot. I tell him that it's 165. He calls.
Based on my read of the CO, I thought the whole counting the pot thing was just an act and not your typical trying-to-figure-out-drawing-odds count. Not positive, though.
Turn is 2d.
CO checks. Hero...?
UTG folds.
CO goes into the tank. He asks if the dealer can count the pot. The dealer says no, so he asks to spread the pot. I tell him that it's 165. He calls.
Based on my read of the CO, I thought the whole counting the pot thing was just an act and not your typical trying-to-figure-out-drawing-odds count. Not positive, though.
Turn is 2d.
CO checks. Hero...?
Peace,
Jay

Jay

#8
Posted 27 October 2006 - 10:14 AM
I bet again. Probably around 3/4 pot this time.
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#9
Posted 27 October 2006 - 10:20 AM
QUOTE (Naismith @ Friday, October 27th, 2006, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay, hero bets 75.
UTG folds.
CO goes into the tank. He asks if the dealer can count the pot. The dealer says no, so he asks to spread the pot. I tell him that it's 165. He calls.
Based on my read of the CO, I thought the whole counting the pot thing was just an act and not your typical trying-to-figure-out-drawing-odds count. Not positive, though.
Turn is 2d.
CO checks. Hero...?
UTG folds.
CO goes into the tank. He asks if the dealer can count the pot. The dealer says no, so he asks to spread the pot. I tell him that it's 165. He calls.
Based on my read of the CO, I thought the whole counting the pot thing was just an act and not your typical trying-to-figure-out-drawing-odds count. Not positive, though.
Turn is 2d.
CO checks. Hero...?
Go all in. Any reasonable bet that you make will commit you to the pot. You can't check call or do anything goofy like that. Your chips are going in, so you might as well get them in here. He might be the gambling type who'll call on a draw. If he has 99, well, you're just gonna go broke.
Another benefit of going all in is that if he folds, you don't have to show your piece of garbage that you reraised with. I think that this is the right play here. Shut him out and move onto the next hand.
#10
Posted 28 October 2006 - 01:47 PM
the question is did he smooth call you with a set or with an overpair? There are a ton of draws so you have to bet but any reasonable bet is going to post commit you, but with your read you didn't think he was on a draw. Your hand can really beat a draw and an over pair.
Will he call off his stack with an over pair on the turn?
Will he call off his stack with an over pair on the turn?
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