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[NorthPacific]

how do you play this hand??Paradise Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP1 with A:heart:, A:diamond:. 2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.Flop: (20 SB) T:club:, 5:club:, 7:diamond: (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.Turn: (12.50 BB) Q:spade: (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls, Hero calls, CO calls.River: (29.50 BB) 8:club: (4 players)SB bets, SB folds, BB calls, Hero calls.Final Pot: 39.50 BB

[allinbluff35]

use the bet the pot format for the hand converter

[looshle]

I don't know what I do differently, you know you're beat on the river but the pots pretty big

[wrto4556]

I think you can fold on the river.Not sure if I like the turn 3-bet, either.

[NorthPacific]

What would be the reasoning behind slowing down on the turn? afraid of QT, QQ or TT?I just can't bring myself to fold the river to one more bet with AA in a 39.5bb pot.

[Vade]

That Q seemed to help the SB enough to check raise you on the turnThe only hand you could beat is a badly played AQ (I'd discount this because he three bet)I'm putting him on QQ at this point, just call the raiseThen on the river, the BB who's just been calling every raise in the deck to this point suddenly raises. On an unpaired board the only thing he could realistically have is a non-nut flushThen the CO 3bets for some reason after ALSO not raising at any point previous. Here's your nut flush probablyAnywho, fold the river to 2 bets

[Vade]

NorthPacific said:

What would be the reasoning behind slowing down on the turn? afraid of QT, QQ or TT?I just can't bring myself to fold the river to one more bet with AA in a 39.5bb pot.

QQ and 1010 are very real possibilitiesIf it's QT shown at the end, you make a little mark that says "fool has no idea to avoid a capped pot with QT!

[wrto4556]

NorthPacific said:

What would be the reasoning behind slowing down on the turn? afraid of QT, QQ or TT?I just can't bring myself to fold the river to one more bet with AA in a 39.5bb pot.

I'm really torn about 3-betting the turn. But on the river you have to pay 2 bets to win 30. 15-1. Do you really thinkg your hand is good 1 in 15 times??

[KDawgCometh]

wrto4556 said:

NorthPacific said:

What would be the reasoning behind slowing down on the turn? afraid of QT, QQ or TT?I just can't bring myself to fold the river to one more bet with AA in a 39.5bb pot.

I'm really torn about 3-betting the turn. But on the river you have to pay 2 bets to win 30. 15-1. Do you really thinkg your hand is good 1 in 15 times??

very good question. I'm actually torn on this one. I don't think its that bad of a call, but its not the greatest either :?

[obs]

With that kind of action, you are guaranteed someone has a set, two pair, or flush.

[wrto4556]

obs said:

With that kind of action, you are guaranteed someone has a set, two pair, or flush.

[akishore]

definitely don't three-bet the turn. you got check-raised by the guy who three-bet pre-flop, that screams a high pocket pair that hit a set either on the flop (and decided to slowplay) or on the turn. TT and QQ are realistic possibilities. by three-betting, you open yourself up to being capped, something you DON'T want with just a pair.i like the call on the river. it's a catastrophic mistake to fold a winner in this big of a pot. at these low limits, without any solid reads, BB and SB could just be fish who think they can bluff their way into winning this pot.aseem

[wrto4556]

Sure, the pot's big, but not big enough.

[ddudley]

Just curious if the BB hit the flush? And the CO must have had one too, right? Did you have any reads on these people before the hand?As usual aseem has some good advice. Although I probably would have 3 bet the turn too (depending on who I'm in the pot with, but unless the SB is someone I consider to be a strong player, I'd 3 bet the turn)Not sure what I would do with when faced with that first raise on the river... I'm pretty sure this guy has a flush. I guess it would come down to what kind of read I have on the guy. If I know he's a good player, I probably fold. If I know he's a bad player I definitly call. If I don't have a read, it's a tough situation which usually means either choice is OK and neither choice is great.If you make the first call on the river the 2nd call should be automatic, even though I'm 99% sure you are beat at that point.Strange that the SB would check-raise the turn into a huge field and then fold the river. Only thing I can think of there is K-K but even that is a stretch.

[NorthPacific]

I forgot to post the hands for the results. CO - A 9 BB - 7 6