another tourney hand

[gobears 0]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t4000 (8 handed) converterUTG (t29366)UTG+1 (t39460)MP1 (t29191)MP2 (t57746)CO (t54066)Button (t20899)Hero (t81362)BB (t172410)Preflop: Hero is SB with [8h], [8c]. 1 fold, Hero calls t19260.Flop: (t79920) [Qc], [7c], [3c] (2 players)Turn: (t79920) [Ks] (2 players)River: (t79920) [7s] (2 players)Final Pot: t79920Later stages of a tourneySo pre-flop, would a better play have been to just call? His all-in re raise screamed aces or kings to me but I felt that I had to make the call at this point.EDIT: Changed "min-raise" to "call"

[looshle 6]

You didn't min-raise you made it 5X the BB. You have to push all in preflop here. Of course you can't fold with half your money in the pot. The only thing I would do is push my money in preflop. Even if he shows you an overpair you're still close to those odds. Pull the tigger before the flop next time.

[Absolute 0]

I think the 5x raise is too much. Why not make is 12,000 to go, or something that leaves you plenty of room to lay it down if you have to?

[Vade 0]

Unfortunately you priced yourself inIn tourney's 88 is a 3x raising hand at bestPushing all in is okay too

[TJ_Eckleburg 0]

I agree with absolute. Late in a tournament, SO many weak players will commit themselves preflop with small pocket pairs. I think the rationalization goes that they're playing pretty tight, and are playing most of the pots they play for all their chips, so they want to be in there with a hand that may not need to improve to win.The problem with that is this: With that raise, you've announced to the other guy that you've committed yourself to calling his all in. No matter what he's holding, there's about a 95% chance you're against two overs or already behind, both of which are unfavorable situations for you. The only way he's dominated, which is what YOU want in all-ins preflop in tournaments, is if he has a smaller pocket pair, (quite unlikely, given the strength he's shown), or a hand like A-8 (in which case he's a moron).Why not just call the big blind? You'll make the sneakiest set ever if it hits. You're in no way committed to a pot in which you don't have the lead. You can judge the texture of the flop and fire out a bet if it seems uncoordinated, and fold for an all in if you believe he's got it.Late in a tournament, the early position limp ALONE represents some sort of strength. You don't want to mess with that for all his chips, out of position, with a tiny chance of being in a dominating position preflop. It's good that you at least had him covered... but this is a very common way weak tallstacks (not calling you one, just from what I've seen) blow their leads, especially in the home stretch, when it matters most.