If You Think Debate On Fcp Is Bad
Started by keith crime, Oct 18 2006 02:16 AM
13 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 18 October 2006 - 02:16 AM
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I used to debate in high school - actually won the state title
check out how absurd college and big time high school debate is
they basically read stuff and try to speak as fast as humanly possible and then when someone misses something they said act like they've missed the key point of a Rene Descartes essay or something
It's a complete waste of time and absurd that they give prizes for this crap
is that beard real or is it an Al Queda joke?
I think the fat dude almost passes out at one point
I used to debate in high school - actually won the state title
check out how absurd college and big time high school debate is
they basically read stuff and try to speak as fast as humanly possible and then when someone misses something they said act like they've missed the key point of a Rene Descartes essay or something
It's a complete waste of time and absurd that they give prizes for this crap
is that beard real or is it an Al Queda joke?
I think the fat dude almost passes out at one point
#2
Posted 18 October 2006 - 07:24 AM
That's How you Debate !!
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#3
Posted 18 October 2006 - 08:22 AM
Where did you debate? I was captain of the NerdSquad in highschool.
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#4
Posted 18 October 2006 - 08:39 AM
I was in a speech class in 8th grade and my teacher was the debate coach at the High School. She asked me one day if I would be on the debate team the next year. I laughed.
#5
Posted 18 October 2006 - 09:04 AM
QUOTE (Shimmering Wang @ Wednesday, October 18th, 2006, 9:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where did you debate? I was captain of the NerdSquad in highschool.
Wang
Wang
Ohio State Champion 1983
I rocked the podium
#6
Posted 18 October 2006 - 09:22 AM
wow, those guys are awesome. and by awesome, i mean they should kill themselves immediately.
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(2) 76'ers to win title @ 31
Webb Simpson to win US Money Title @ 17
Brandt Snedeker to win US Money Title @ 26
(5) Broncos to win the AFC @ 11
(2.5) Broncos to win the SB @ 21
(2) Bears to win SB @ 42
(0.5) Red Sox to lead AL East @ 6.5
(1.5) White Sox to lead AL Central @ 17.25
Indians to lead AL Central @ 15
Nationals to lead NL East @ 9
(0.5) Marlins to lead NL East @ 6
Padres to lead NL West @ 29
(0.5) Rockies to lead NL West @ 6.5
(0.5) Cardinals to win NL @ 9
#7
Posted 18 October 2006 - 09:27 AM
QUOTE (mrdannyg @ Wednesday, October 18th, 2006, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wow, those guys are awesome. and by awesome, i mean they should kill themselves immediately.
its a farce its a mockery of something that should be really cool
#8
Posted 18 October 2006 - 10:48 AM
QUOTE (keith crime @ Wednesday, October 18th, 2006, 1:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
its a farce its a mockery of something that should be really cool
I strongly disagree, and here's why....
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#9
Posted 18 October 2006 - 11:15 AM
Policy debate can get a little crazy, which is why a lot of places- especially as you move towards the southern midwest- offer Lincoln Douglas debate (usually during the forensics season) as an alternative. The pace is slower, and the emphasis is on logical, well-crafted arguments, as opposed to policy debate, where whoever reads the fastest (and least clearly) wins.
I was a pretty good debater in highschool, but I decided not to do it at college, seeing as how I really didn't want to have to practice speed-breathing 3 hours a day.
Wang
I was a pretty good debater in highschool, but I decided not to do it at college, seeing as how I really didn't want to have to practice speed-breathing 3 hours a day.
Wang
#10
Posted 18 October 2006 - 11:37 AM
I did both - when I was a Sophomore I actually pulled off a big upset in a policy debate against this 2 man team that were considered gods - by arguing that talking that fast proved they had nothing to say and argued it was a voting issue
when they actually had to debate on my turf they flailed like little bit ches
the problem is no one ever has the balls to fight it
I judged Ohio's state finals about 7 years ago and the issue was immigration
The Affirmative argued that letting immigrant athletes compete in America would cause Nuclear destruction and I actually voted for them because instead of slowing down and point out how idiotic that was they spewed out something equally if not moreso idiotic
having people speak so fast they start heaving is inane - i used to use time as a strategy but if you can't edit your argument down to a few simple points you usually have no idea what you are talking about
another cool strategy - you go up to the fast talker and say - which one of your arguments do you think is the strongest - if he picks one you say - well no one has time to go through all that i'll just beat his strongest objection
if he says they are all equal beating anyone beats them all
it doesn't totally make sense but these morons can't think they just read stuff their coaches give them really fast its sad
when they actually had to debate on my turf they flailed like little bit ches
the problem is no one ever has the balls to fight it
I judged Ohio's state finals about 7 years ago and the issue was immigration
The Affirmative argued that letting immigrant athletes compete in America would cause Nuclear destruction and I actually voted for them because instead of slowing down and point out how idiotic that was they spewed out something equally if not moreso idiotic
having people speak so fast they start heaving is inane - i used to use time as a strategy but if you can't edit your argument down to a few simple points you usually have no idea what you are talking about
another cool strategy - you go up to the fast talker and say - which one of your arguments do you think is the strongest - if he picks one you say - well no one has time to go through all that i'll just beat his strongest objection
if he says they are all equal beating anyone beats them all
it doesn't totally make sense but these morons can't think they just read stuff their coaches give them really fast its sad
#11
Posted 18 October 2006 - 11:43 AM
Since when did the USA get so stupid and shallow?
Look down...
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Look down...
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#12
Posted 18 October 2006 - 11:47 AM
QUOTE (keith crime @ Wednesday, October 18th, 2006, 3:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I did both - when I was a Sophomore I actually pulled off a big upset in a policy debate against this 2 man team that were considered gods - by arguing that talking that fast proved they had nothing to say and argued it was a voting issue
when they actually had to debate on my turf they flailed like little bit ches
the problem is no one ever has the balls to fight it
I judged Ohio's state finals about 7 years ago and the issue was immigration
The Affirmative argued that letting immigrant athletes compete in America would cause Nuclear destruction and I actually voted for them because instead of slowing down and point out how idiotic that was they spewed out something equally if not moreso idiotic
having people speak so fast they start heaving is inane - i used to use time as a strategy but if you can't edit your argument down to a few simple points you usually have no idea what you are talking about
another cool strategy - you go up to the fast talker and say - which one of your arguments do you think is the strongest - if he picks one you say - well no one has time to go through all that i'll just beat his strongest objection
if he says they are all equal beating anyone beats them all
it doesn't totally make sense but these morons can't think they just read stuff their coaches give them really fast its sad
when they actually had to debate on my turf they flailed like little bit ches
the problem is no one ever has the balls to fight it
I judged Ohio's state finals about 7 years ago and the issue was immigration
The Affirmative argued that letting immigrant athletes compete in America would cause Nuclear destruction and I actually voted for them because instead of slowing down and point out how idiotic that was they spewed out something equally if not moreso idiotic
having people speak so fast they start heaving is inane - i used to use time as a strategy but if you can't edit your argument down to a few simple points you usually have no idea what you are talking about
another cool strategy - you go up to the fast talker and say - which one of your arguments do you think is the strongest - if he picks one you say - well no one has time to go through all that i'll just beat his strongest objection
if he says they are all equal beating anyone beats them all
it doesn't totally make sense but these morons can't think they just read stuff their coaches give them really fast its sad
Yeah, a similar thing happened to us in the debate state tournament. These kids were superstars, won back-to-back state championships in Michigan as sophomores and juniors. We were totally overmatched, but my partner and I crafted some really, really tricky arguments, pointed out some pretty glaring logical inconsistencies. We ended up kicking out of our entire plan, and staking the entire debate on some of their counterplan stuff. When I gave my 2AR, the kid on the other team nodded, walked over, and said, "Nice job. We can't win" loud enough for the judges to hear. Crazy stuff.
I used to make speed a voting issue a LOT, especially if the judge was older. A college kid will just get pissed that you're slowing the round down, taking away valuable time he could spend listening to more Focault or Feminism critiques. But old people are so willing to vote on speed.
When I was a neg, I used to love just spending almost all my time in the 1NC on case. "Here's a few crappy disads. Got that? Now I'm just going to march through this case, and explain why each and every single claim they make is patently absurd." Affs would just completely ignore on-case attacks if I didn't read 12 lines of evidence, or they'd say, "He has no evidence."
Ah, debate... how dorky I still am.
Wang
#13
Posted 18 October 2006 - 02:25 PM
QUOTE (keith crime @ Wednesday, October 18th, 2006, 10:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ohio State Champion 1983
I rocked the podium
I rocked the podium
yea ohio, i would have joined my high school speech and debate team except they needed to be at their debates at 6 am which means they would have needed to wake up at like 5
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#14
Posted 18 October 2006 - 02:28 PM
QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Wednesday, October 18th, 2006, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since when did the USA get so stupid and shallow?
Look down...
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