keith crime 8 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I used to debate in high school - actually won the state titlecheck out how absurd college and big time high school debate isthey basically read stuff and try to speak as fast as humanly possible and then when someone misses something they said act like they've missed the key point of a Rene Descartes essay or somethingIt's a complete waste of time and absurd that they give prizes for this crapis that beard real or is it an Al Queda joke?I think the fat dude almost passes out at one point Link to post Share on other sites
Marc-O 0 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 That's How you Debate !! Link to post Share on other sites
Shimmering Wang 1 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Where did you debate? I was captain of the NerdSquad in highschool.Wang Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,741 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I was in a speech class in 8th grade and my teacher was the debate coach at the High School. She asked me one day if I would be on the debate team the next year. I laughed. Link to post Share on other sites
keith crime 8 Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 Where did you debate? I was captain of the NerdSquad in highschool.WangOhio State Champion 1983 I rocked the podium Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 wow, those guys are awesome. and by awesome, i mean they should kill themselves immediately. Link to post Share on other sites
keith crime 8 Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 wow, those guys are awesome. and by awesome, i mean they should kill themselves immediately.its a farce its a mockery of something that should be really cool Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Mexico 4,238 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 its a farce its a mockery of something that should be really coolI strongly disagree, and here's why.... Link to post Share on other sites
Shimmering Wang 1 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Policy debate can get a little crazy, which is why a lot of places- especially as you move towards the southern midwest- offer Lincoln Douglas debate (usually during the forensics season) as an alternative. The pace is slower, and the emphasis is on logical, well-crafted arguments, as opposed to policy debate, where whoever reads the fastest (and least clearly) wins.I was a pretty good debater in highschool, but I decided not to do it at college, seeing as how I really didn't want to have to practice speed-breathing 3 hours a day.Wang Link to post Share on other sites
keith crime 8 Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 I did both - when I was a Sophomore I actually pulled off a big upset in a policy debate against this 2 man team that were considered gods - by arguing that talking that fast proved they had nothing to say and argued it was a voting issuewhen they actually had to debate on my turf they flailed like little bit chesthe problem is no one ever has the balls to fight itI judged Ohio's state finals about 7 years ago and the issue was immigrationThe Affirmative argued that letting immigrant athletes compete in America would cause Nuclear destruction and I actually voted for them because instead of slowing down and point out how idiotic that was they spewed out something equally if not moreso idiotichaving people speak so fast they start heaving is inane - i used to use time as a strategy but if you can't edit your argument down to a few simple points you usually have no idea what you are talking aboutanother cool strategy - you go up to the fast talker and say - which one of your arguments do you think is the strongest - if he picks one you say - well no one has time to go through all that i'll just beat his strongest objectionif he says they are all equal beating anyone beats them all it doesn't totally make sense but these morons can't think they just read stuff their coaches give them really fast its sad Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Since when did the USA get so stupid and shallow? Look down...(SW) Link to post Share on other sites
Shimmering Wang 1 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I did both - when I was a Sophomore I actually pulled off a big upset in a policy debate against this 2 man team that were considered gods - by arguing that talking that fast proved they had nothing to say and argued it was a voting issuewhen they actually had to debate on my turf they flailed like little bit chesthe problem is no one ever has the balls to fight itI judged Ohio's state finals about 7 years ago and the issue was immigrationThe Affirmative argued that letting immigrant athletes compete in America would cause Nuclear destruction and I actually voted for them because instead of slowing down and point out how idiotic that was they spewed out something equally if not moreso idiotichaving people speak so fast they start heaving is inane - i used to use time as a strategy but if you can't edit your argument down to a few simple points you usually have no idea what you are talking aboutanother cool strategy - you go up to the fast talker and say - which one of your arguments do you think is the strongest - if he picks one you say - well no one has time to go through all that i'll just beat his strongest objectionif he says they are all equal beating anyone beats them all it doesn't totally make sense but these morons can't think they just read stuff their coaches give them really fast its sadYeah, a similar thing happened to us in the debate state tournament. These kids were superstars, won back-to-back state championships in Michigan as sophomores and juniors. We were totally overmatched, but my partner and I crafted some really, really tricky arguments, pointed out some pretty glaring logical inconsistencies. We ended up kicking out of our entire plan, and staking the entire debate on some of their counterplan stuff. When I gave my 2AR, the kid on the other team nodded, walked over, and said, "Nice job. We can't win" loud enough for the judges to hear. Crazy stuff.I used to make speed a voting issue a LOT, especially if the judge was older. A college kid will just get pissed that you're slowing the round down, taking away valuable time he could spend listening to more Focault or Feminism critiques. But old people are so willing to vote on speed.When I was a neg, I used to love just spending almost all my time in the 1NC on case. "Here's a few crappy disads. Got that? Now I'm just going to march through this case, and explain why each and every single claim they make is patently absurd." Affs would just completely ignore on-case attacks if I didn't read 12 lines of evidence, or they'd say, "He has no evidence."Ah, debate... how dorky I still am.Wang Link to post Share on other sites
showstopper24 0 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Ohio State Champion 1983 I rocked the podiumyea ohio, i would have joined my high school speech and debate team except they needed to be at their debates at 6 am which means they would have needed to wake up at like 5 Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Since when did the USA get so stupid and shallow? Look down... ...how long has that thing been attached to me? Link to post Share on other sites
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