Over-push?

[bdc30 0]

PokerStars Game #6342212608: Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/09/19 - 12:07:15 (ET)Table 'Stentor IV' 9-max Seat #7 is the buttonSeat 1: UTG ($393 in chips) Seat 2: UTG+1 ($60 in chips) Seat 6: CO ($81.85 in chips) Seat 8: SB ($62 in chips) Seat 9: bdcfcp ($97.35 in chips) bdcfcp: posts big blind $2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to bdcfcp A 3 2 A UTG: raises $2 to $4, UTG+1: calls $4, 3 folds, CO: raises $2 to $6,Button folds, SB calls $5, bdcfcp: raises $91.35 to $97.35 and is all-in???So I've seen it Min-raised, flat called, Re-Min-Raised, Overcalled....A push hereis sure to get a caller somewhere, no???

[predator06 0]

I played quite a bit of NLO8 at the beginning of this year (did quite well). I intentionally bought into 1/2 tables with only $100 and I pushed preflop ALOT. It amazed me what some players called me with. This is an interesting situation. If it were me, I would push and most likely get called because of my table image since I push so much. It also looks like a steal attempt with 9bb's already in the pot. The debate... Do you want to be called or get a free $19? Both situations are +EV, but I would be happy with $19. I would push here in your situation. AA23 is beautiful, BUT I can attest to it not hitting flops quite often, so raising like $30 I don't believe is the play. Also, with this much action P/F the other A's must be gone. Push

[bdc30 0]

I intentionally bought into 1/2 tables with only $100 and I pushed preflop ALOT. It amazed me what some players called me with.

It's odd that you would say that, since that is PRECISELY what I was doing,which also explains why I only had ~$100, and exactly why I pushed....

[predator06 0]

So, did everyone fold? I think it is about the save EV with a steal or a call. Anyone that calls you is probably only about a 35-40% fav. In PL, I NEVER play with less than a full buyin. The 1/2 buy in is a great strategy for this type of game, esp if you push alot like I did. Keep in mind that when you push, 90% of the time the table will fold and you will win $5-$10 and the 10% of the time it is called, you should win 55-60% if you are pushing with the correct hands. You could lose a couple here and there, but in the long run, it is very profitable

[EurekaKid 0]

I've had success in Omaha 8 tournaments using this strategy which the blinds are at a nice level. Haven't tried it in a cash game because in PL I believe full buy-in is correct, but having read this I might try it. What sort of numbers have you guys been pulling in these games?

[Acid_Knight 2]

I like the play a lot. If they all fold, then you increase your stack by about 20% without a fight, which isn't a bad pickup.You might get called by a hand like AKK2 or AK23 DS where they're drawing slim to dead to beat your high hand and are likely to get quartered against your hand. I think that it's a great play because any hand that does decide to enter is likely not going to win more than 1/4 of the pot.

[antistuff 0]

i think i like a raise of about $40 much better.

[predator06 0]

i think i like a raise of about $40 much better.

NO NO NO....and then you miss the turn. Do you fire, knowing the villian has odds to call you with any draw and probably even a pair?

[antistuff 0]

NO NO NO....and then you miss the turn. Do you fire, knowing the villian has odds to call you with any draw and probably even a pair?

im probobly going to push any flop.

[Wintermute 0]

if you push enough preflop, you will get called here fairly often--definitely often enough to make pushing PF the right play