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[WrongWay]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)

UTG (t1360)
MP1 (t1455)
WrongWay (t1395)
CO (t1460)
Button (t3980)
SB (t1500)
BB (t2350)

Preflop: WrongWay is MP2 with A , J .
UTG calls t30, MP1 calls t30, WrongWay calls t30, CO calls t30, Button calls t30, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t210) J , T , 5 (7 players)
SB bets t30, BB calls t30, UTG calls t30, MP1 calls t30,

[SCS]

I raise preflop.

Definitely raise the flop.

[WrongWay]

how much of a raise on the flop? Pot sized? Larger to take it down now?

[gobears]

Too many players saw the flop

I just call here - if someone has two pair or a set, they should raise on this board and we can then get out.

If no one raises and a safe turn card falls - low non-spade. I would then raise the turn as it'd be easier to drive out the draws with only one card to go.

[Actuary]

Stakes?

I raise to 150 preflop, if table is not loose (I play $11's pn Stars for now and they seem tight)

If loose tables or aggressive Button, I probably limp.

I"m with GoBears, as played.
RIO too high to raise flop now

[delasoul]

I go with a call as well...To many cards that can't hurt you on the turn or river i.e. straight draw, flush draw.

Keep the pot small as it is too early in the tourney to go broke with top pair. Play your hand accordingly to what the turn card brings what other's do in position.

[ChrisRichey]

Too many players saw the flop

I just call here - if someone has two pair or a set, they should raise on this board and we can then get out.

If no one raises and a safe turn card falls - low non-spade. I would then raise the turn as it'd be easier to drive out the draws with only one card to go.

I agree with this.

[WrongWay]

Well, again, I did the opposite of the recomendations.....

this time it happened to work out.

WrongWay raises to t250[/color], CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: t580

[Actuary]

Well, again, I did the opposite of the recomendations.....

this time it happened to work out.

WrongWay raises to t250[/color], CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: t580

that has it's merits.
If you're called in multiple places, I"d shut down.
I like the perception this may give them of you..

[CoranMoran]

Why did you limp, in the first place?

People seem to have the impression that a limp means strength.
But obviously, we know that's not the case.

I view these two limpers as just throwing their money away.
And I am going to scopp it up before the flop.

So raise this preflop.
For value and information.

It makes everything so much easier.

--cm

[navybuttons]

depending on the buy-in of the tournament i most likely fold preflop.

if limped you have to raise the flop. if you buy the button then check the turn and let the SB bluff his missed spades. if people behind you call you have to shut down.

if any one cares to know why folding preflop is probably the correct play i'll write a explanation, but you'd get more out of it figuring it out for yourself.

[Actuary]

if any one cares to know why folding preflop is probably the correct play i'll write a explanation, but you'd get more out of it figuring it out for yourself.

Given this is most likely a $33 or less buy in, you couldn't write a novel to convince me folding is best preflop.

[navybuttons]

Given this is most likely a $33 or less buy in, you couldn't write a novel to convince me folding is best preflop.

fine. i'm bored at work.

with two limpers, and in middle position we are raising to take it down preflop or buy the button.

this means that our raise is probably to $250 or $300. the raise shows a lot of strength so anyone calling behind is going to have a real hand. if anyone calls behind us we are now playing a big pot (with a good percentage of our stack in the pot) out of position with a mediocre hand and have no clue where we stand and can't use bets to find out. if we continuation bet when we miss now there is going to be half our stack in the pot OOP with a mediocre holding.

hero got one of the best flops for our hand, but even still, if i was playing it, all the decisions on later streets would be difficult.

i refuse to go broke with AJ at $30 blinds when i started the hand with 1300, but raising limpers OOP is a recipe for doing just that.

if everyone folds pf we used $300 to increase our stack by 1/14th (doesn't really seem worth it to me with blinds at this level).

if we fold preflop then that's all. we missed out on a $160 pot and we live to fight another day.

when i play laggy in the early stages of tournaments trying to build a stack i do it with hands that aren't dominated (suited connectors) in position.

I raise to 150 preflop, if table is not loose (I play $11's pn Stars for now and they seem tight)

if we raise to $150, its $150 for the next person to call into a $250 pot. with each caller they get better odds. now we're REALLY building a pot OOP with a mediocre holding.

[WrongWay]

depending on the buy-in of the tournament i most likely fold preflop.

It is a "play money" game, but I'm more interested in learning a strategy that will work in low stakes games than a strategy that will win play money.

[navybuttons]

It is a "play money" game, but I'm more interested in learning a strategy that will work in low stakes games than a strategy that will win play money.

'play money'? shove preflop. you'll learn what a piece of garbage AJ is.

goodluck.

[Actuary]

'play money'? shove preflop. you'll learn what a piece of garbage AJ is.

goodluck.

lol.

[IQCrash]

Play Money tables aren't really appropriate for learning anything.