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#1 CobaltBlue

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 07:38 PM

Bodog 8/16 LHE (6-handed)

Cobalt is SB w/ J icon_suit_club.gif J icon_suit_heart.gif. Only second hand at table, so no reads, though I had played with CO before and remembered him as somewhat LAG.

Pre-flop:
UTG calls, MP raises, 1 fold, Button calls, Cobalt 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls

Flop (13 SB): 3 icon_suit_diamond.gif J icon_suit_diamond.gif J icon_suit_spade.gif (4 players)
Cobalt bets, 1 fold, MP raises, Button 3-bets, Cobalt calls, MP calls

Turn (11 BB): T icon_suit_club.gif (3 players)
Cobalt checks, MP checks, Button bets, Cobalt raises, 1 fold, MP calls

River (15 BB): 3 icon_suit_club.gif (2 players)
Cobalt bets, MP calls

Final Pot: 17 BB


Best to just go ahead and cap the flop? If not, donkbet or c/c turn?
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 09:23 PM

I think you got pretty much all money u possibly could unless villain is a super aggro donk.

If you cap flop, bet turn and river and he only calls. Well, then this play vs that one gained u 1 more sb.

I don't mind it, why get tricky right?

The only alternative I think is good is:
you could call 3bet, call turn, and raise river hoping for a 3bet - most likely he's calling the raise on the river anyhow, but this has best chance of getting that extra bet in.

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 09:51 PM

I don't like the c/r on the turn as we are shutting the 3rd player out, I say donk it.

I could go either way on 3-betting/capping the flop.
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Posted 11 October 2006 - 04:18 AM

QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Tuesday, October 10th, 2006, 9:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't like the c/r on the turn as we are shutting the 3rd player out, I say donk it.


I agree. Shutting out a player that could pay us off for 2BB to showdown is -EV.

Oh, and I am very much capping this flop. Don't think it's close, really.

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 07:07 AM

QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Wednesday, October 11th, 2006, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't like the c/r on the turn as we are shutting the 3rd player out

I kind of "slowplayed" by reflex and quite regretted that realization when it hit me.

That's actually why I posted this hand...it's not just a "quad" hand...it's a position hand.
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Posted 11 October 2006 - 10:48 AM

When Hero just called the 3-bet on the flop, should he bet on the turn to get more bets because it doesn't make sense and will likely get called at least but more likely raised?

"That's actually why I posted this hand...it's not just a "quad" hand...it's a position hand."

Can you explain this a bit, blue? Thanks.
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#7 CobaltBlue

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 05:47 PM

QUOTE (JacKingOff_suit @ Wednesday, October 11th, 2006, 1:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"That's actually why I posted this hand...it's not just a "quad" hand...it's a position hand."

Being in worst position post-flop affects our decision-making...on whether to go for the cap, donkbet, c/r, c/c. If we were on the button, our ability to make the best decision would be much easier. If we were in different relative position, that would help also.
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 11:19 AM

I would fear that capping the flop would make MP fold his middle pocket-pair.
So I simply call the 3bet here.

But with our relative position to the most likely turn bettor, I certainly lead this turn to trap MP in the middle.

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