Ak Call All In On River

[Actuary 3]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)Button (t800)SB (t1200)BB (t5900)UTG (t1610)MP1 (t5733)MP2 (t2462)Actuary (t2295)Preflop: Actuary is CO with , . UTG calls t100, 2 folds, Actuary raises to t350, 3 folds, UTG calls t250.Flop: (t850) , , (2 players)UTG bets t100, Actuary raises to t425, UTG calls t325.Turn: (t1700) (2 players)UTG bets t100, Actuary calls t100.River: (t1900) (2 players)UTG is All In t735, Actuary calls t735.Final Pot: t3370no read.commentsHolyField?

[IQCrash 1]

I hate UTG limpers. Absolutely hate them. UTG limper usually always means either a monster, or small pair/suited connecter.So, based on the action and the UTG limp, I'd say:A- He has AA and is walking the dog.B- Has a suited connecter that either made his straight or two paired somewhere along the path to the river.or C- Has a middle/small pair that made a set somewhere along the path to the river.I'm not going broke with TPTK here.

[tskillz187 0]

I raise the turn and put him all in. As played I'd consider folding on the river, he sure is taking a scary line.Limp call, lead call, lead, lead. That's scary. But the bet is so weak on the turn that it seems like a blocker bet, which is why I would push.

[simo_8ball 1]

Raise more on the flop.

[Actuary 3]

Raise more on the flop.

so, get pot committed on the flop ?

[simo_8ball 1]

so, get pot committed on the flop ?

I'm not folding AK on a K78 flop against a player with 16xbb, so yes I want to get pot committed on the flop. Your little raise gives him fantastic odds if he has 56 or 9T.

[gobears 0]

I'm not folding AK on a K78 flop against a player with 16xbb, so yes I want to get pot committed on the flop. Your little raise gives him fantastic odds if he has 56 or 9T.

I take this same line - your M is low enough where you're going broke with TPTK if he happened to be slow playing a monster.

[copernicus 0]

You are easy to read as AK at this point, yet he was willing to call the flop raise, getting 2:1 odds, and then leads a nuisance bet on the turn. The only draw he could have that justifies 2:1 odds is the OESD, which means he would have called the pf raise with connected/suited connected cards..a terrible play with these stacks, but Ive seen worse.But given the possibilities, the 100 bet doesnt look like a blocker bet to me. It looks like an invitation for you to raise so he can put himself all in. I would put him on a set, with a made straight as a long shot that came in.Youre getting something like 3:1 to call the 735. Is he bluffing 25% of the time? I dont think so. If you call your stack is a lot less playable. I would fold.

[Actuary 3]

Copernicus,I gave him much better than 2:1 on the flopDo you raise more on the flop?If so, I can't imagine you could still get away from it on the river, since pot would be even bigger (odds better, but more info perhaps)****************************most of you know me to overpush.I sometimes underbet/underrepresentOn flop, I'm really bad about thinking about connectors.So, my raise was more to see if he had hit a set, and hopefully, I'd find out.Once he flat calls, I put him on something like KJ/KQ,or junk, or weak made hand, or SET and slow playingOn the turn I decided that I was going to go broke over the next two streets if indeed he had hit his set. I read him as a loose/bad player, pretty much with almost any hand he has here that beats me. Limping/Calling from UTG with 88/77/KK or 56s with 1600t. I wanted to maximize the chance to get all his chips WHEN I WAS AHEAD.If he has T9s, well I'm beat on the river and I "played it horribly" according to T.O.P. But that's about the only reasonable? holding to play this way that beats me. With my weak turn call, I think I have a better chance of getting his money when he's way behind and desperate. I was eyeing his stack and see that it's 735 with the BB about to hit him. I think he pushes the river here with any K and worse to try to take the pot, hoping I'm as weak as my play.If the board wasn't so dry, I'd raise the flop more.But I think trying to sniff out a set (if he reveals it) or underrepresenting my hand gets more value when he has 1200 left after his flop lead.Had he pushed the flop, I'd fold; hence the probing raise.After he didn't, I risked him hitting at most often <6 outs, or being slow played

[copernicus 0]

Copernicus,I gave him much better than 2:1 on the flopDo you raise more on the flop?If so, I can't imagine you could still get away from it on the river, since pot would be even bigger (odds better, but more info perhaps)****************************most of you know me to overpush.I sometimes underbet/underrepresentOn flop, I'm really bad about thinking about connectors.So, my raise was more to see if he had hit a set, and hopefully, I'd find out.Once he flat calls, I put him on something like KJ/KQ,or junk, or weak made hand, or SET and slow playingOn the turn I decided that I was going to go broke over the next two streets if indeed he had hit his set. I read him as a loose/bad player, pretty much with almost any hand he has here that beats me. Limping/Calling from UTG with 88/77/KK or 56s with 1600t. I wanted to maximize the chance to get all his chips WHEN I WAS AHEAD.If he has T9s, well I'm beat on the river and I "played it horribly" according to T.O.P. But that's about the only reasonable? holding to play this way that beats me. With my weak turn call, I think I have a better chance of getting his money when he's way behind and desperate. I was eyeing his stack and see that it's 735 with the BB about to hit him. I think he pushes the river here with any K and worse to try to take the pot, hoping I'm as weak as my play.If the board wasn't so dry, I'd raise the flop more.But I think trying to sniff out a set (if he reveals it) or underrepresenting my hand gets more value when he has 1200 left after his flop lead.Had he pushed the flop, I'd fold; hence the probing raise.After he didn't, I risked him hitting at most often <6 outs, or being slow played

my bad, youre good.

[Actuary 3]

my bad, youre good.

more specifically?and this time into the mic please.

[copernicus 0]

more specifically?and this time into the mic please.

I like the way you played it now that I added your bet to the pot before calcuating odds!

[Actuary 3]

I like the way you played it now that I added your bet to the pot before calcuating odds!

coolso you think he has a much wider range now?and I can call the river?

[SpiderGuard 0]

coolso you think he has a much wider range now?and I can call the river?

I stink at poker, but I think you can. You played the turn uber-passively, and I can see him thinking you were on a steal or a middle pair and can be pushed off of it. I don't like calling the turn. I agree with the folks who said push allin on the turn. He probably calls, but at least you got the money in ahead and can whine about it in General, and then people can say one of those whacky acronyms. Everyone wins that way.

[copernicus 0]

coolso you think he has a much wider range now?and I can call the river?

Until the turn you looked like AK or KQ. The turn action may have induced a bluff, so yeah, I think you have to follow through on that plan.

[Actuary 3]

he had T7 unsuited, no clubsI'm trying to work on the idea: "If you're going to go broke anyway figure out the best way to make the most chips given the range of hands / board"With the dry flop, I really felt he would more likely donk chips to me if he thinks there's a chance I will fold, than there is him having a legitimate draw. If he has a set..we all go broke, unless he pushed the flop, then I'd foldHis stack relative to pot dictated much of my thoughts/actions

[Briguy 0]

I don't see how you could ever fold the river after turtling on the turn. You run a good bluff catch, and I certainly don't have the huevos rancheros to gamble like that. I'd just go all-in on the turn, happy with the knowledge that I'm folding out whatever really strange hand villain plays that way after the preflop raise (or doubling up a set).