Actuary 3 Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (2 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)Actuary (t6816)Button (t5184)Preflop: Actuary is BB with , . Button calls t100, Actuary checks.Flop: (t300) , , (2 players)Actuary checks, Button bets t200, Actuary raises to t1225, Button calls t1025.Turn: (t2750) (2 players)Actuary is all in t5391Villain wa solid player before being in the money.He has folded preflop to me several times from te Button.Our pots have been tame.He slw played Turned trips and then paid of my rivered flushI had 99 and raised to 350 (50/100) as he reraised to 1500. I folded nd said "99" He showed TT. Just presented that to say, from my folding 99 HU, I was not considering him to be laggy at all.He did not always bet when chekd to. And I had not c/r w/o a solid hand yetThis whole hand was odd for meI rarely push a turn on a semi bluff.Probably should more often HU?Aweful? Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Looks all right to me. Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (2 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)Actuary (t6816)Button (t5184)Preflop: Actuary is BB with , . Button calls t100, Actuary checks.Flop: (t300) , , (2 players)Actuary checks, Button bets t200, Actuary raises to t1225, Button calls t1025.Turn: (t2750) (2 players)Actuary is all in t5391Villain wa solid player before being in the money.He has folded preflop to me several times from te Button.Our pots have been tame.He slw played Turned trips and then paid of my rivered flushI had 99 and raised to 350 (50/100) as he reraised to 1500. I folded nd said "99" He showed TT. Just presented that to say, from my folding 99 HU, I was not considering him to be laggy at all.He did not always bet when chekd to. And I had not c/r w/o a solid hand yetThis whole hand was odd for meI rarely push a turn on a semi bluff.Probably should more often HU?Aweful?I dont understand the flop raise and I dont like the semi-bluff. Villain has shown some strengthin this hand, and big bluffs in HU vs any strength at all are very risky. Most people play under the "any pair is probably a winner" strategy.In this specific hand, what story does the action tell? You check preflop. Could be most anything, but middle pairs and connected high cards are the the most common raising hands, and you didnt raise.You have a chance to see a cheap turn card but you elect to raise the flop. The pot is small at that point. Are you semibluffing at that point? It certainly doesnt look it...you should have some value to bother investing this much money in these circumstances. Your most likely hand is a Q. Maybe 6s with a flush draw, and a trapping pair, most likely high pairs.Now a 7 hits and you push. What is your made hand here? The only possibilities that are helped by the 7 are 34 and 77. Hes not going to give much credence to those. The alternative is that you think you were ahead and the 7 helped neither of you....but hes already said he thinks hes ahead of your hand on the flop or has monster draws.If he thinks he was ahead, hes almost always calling.If he thinks you were ahead and he was drawing then you dont need to push to get him to fold, and he knows it. Even 1k kills his drawing odds. so why are you pushing? Its pretty clear you dont want a call, and stinks of a bluff. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Ugly. Flop c/r isn't terrible, but don't shove the river. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted October 8, 2006 Author Share Posted October 8, 2006 Ugly. Flop c/r isn't terrible, but don't shove the river.I shoved the turnAgainst a tigght player who I had yet to shove against played tight againstSo you love it now? ! Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Ugly. Flop c/r isn't terrible, but don't shove the turn.FMP Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted October 8, 2006 Author Share Posted October 8, 2006 giving he's a tight player and I've not shoved HU and been tight, playing small ball with him, what is he going to call with that would not have re-raised the flop ? I guess he might have Q+straight draw now.Hopefully not Q's up.I thought I might be representing a flopped 2 pair or set, trying to shut out his flush draw, or keep from being counterfeited.It's only $33 STT, so the level of thinking simple (like mine)and fwiw, I picked this hand because it's so so rare for me and I was pretending to have flopped a big but vulnerable hand and wanted to continue to represent it. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 I'm officially blind. I totally missed that you picked up a draw on the turn.Given you c/r the flop and he called, I don't see him folding anything but a flush draw if you boom it all in. It looks like he has a queen. I think I prefer checking the turn and seeing what he does. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 I don't like critiquing plays when people are putting a move on. So I won't. But, a few comments on how the move is being made.Why such a big C/R? I put it to 700ish.Why such a gigantic turn overbet? I think because of your big C/R you don't want to bet say 1400-1500 because he might come over the top of you, and then you might be getting odds to call at this point. Which is also why the flop C/R to that amount is hurting.I'd bet 1200-1400 on turn. (Following my 700 C/R on flop)Then I'd fire a third bullet all in on river. This just gives you more opportunity for a fold, imo. Link to post Share on other sites
throwemaway 0 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 I don't like critiquing plays when people are putting a move on. So I won't. But, a few comments on how the move is being made.Why such a big C/R? I put it to 700ish.Why such a gigantic turn overbet? I think because of your big C/R you don't want to bet say 1400-1500 because he might come over the top of you, and then you might be getting odds to call at this point. Which is also why the flop C/R to that amount is hurting.I'd bet 1200-1400 on turn. (Following my 700 C/R on flop)Then I'd fire a third bullet all in on river. This just gives you more opportunity for a fold, imo.If I were to make this bluff, which I do on occassion, this is the play I would makeActuary: This hand slightly reminded me of the one you and I played in the FCP #3 tourney where I showed the bluff Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted October 9, 2006 Author Share Posted October 9, 2006 he folded, of courseI'm trying to practice playing beyond just my two cards.got lots of work to do Link to post Share on other sites
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