8 replies to this topic

[Zach6668]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)

MP1 ($47.05)
MP2 ($60.20)
CO ($58.30)
Button ($100.35)
SB ($130.20)
BB ($7.85)
UTG ($9.80)
Hero ($98.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q , A .
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $4, 4 folds, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold, UTG folds.

Flop: ($10) 7 , Q , 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6, SB raises to $24, Hero ...


No reads.

[bdc30]

Meh, I fold. Reluctantly.

[pokerfan1080]

This is always a tough spot for me.

Villain may see your bet as a whiffed c-bet and is trying to push you off the hand. Or, more likely, he hit a set. I don't think he would play back at you like that with AQ.

I don't see a need to get TPTK involved with villain at this point and I would probably let it go.

[CobaltBlue]

Villain may see your bet as a whiffed c-bet and is trying to push you off the hand. Or, more likely, he hit a set. I don't think he would play back at you like that with AQ.

Bad villains don't check-raise that big with sets. Granted, we don't know that he's bad. That is to say, this could just as easily be a flush draw as it is top pair or a set. The problem is that the stacks are pretty deep, so with no reads, I don't think we have to play a big pot with just TPTK.

[throwemaway]

This is exactly a scenario in the past when I have gotten stacked in NL cash and then vow to stop overplaying TPTK

Then I do it again

Lather, rinse, repeat

[Whiskey16]

Bad villains don't check-raise that big with sets. Granted, we don't know that he's bad. That is to say, this could just as easily be a flush draw as it is top pair or a set. The problem is that the stacks are pretty deep, so with no reads, I don't think we have to play a big pot with just TPTK.

Are you saying that a villain who's a good player will check raise that amount with a set there?

[anyone1]

i don't see how you could ever fold.. i mean, it's not overplaying tptk when you call a check/ raise that could easily be a worse q or flush draw or air or whatever. i guess you folded and he showed you a set or something?

[CobaltBlue]

Are you saying that a villain who's a good player will check raise that amount with a set there?

I'm saying that's a possibility. "Good" villains will realize that the board is coordinated, so they'll generally either lead out on the flop or check-raise a goodly amount. "Bad" villains put the min-check-raise.

[Whiskey16]

I'm saying that's a possibility. "Good" villains will realize that the board is coordinated, so they'll generally either lead out on the flop or check-raise a goodly amount. "Bad" villains put the min-check-raise.

ok. Thanks for clarifying. I was thinking that was exactly the raise I'd put in there with a set, so I was just wonderin.