Wandigo 1 Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 PokerStars Game #6505569400: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/10/03 - 13:53:56 (ET)Table 'Mekbuda II' 9-max Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 1: hauff2 ($49.30 in chips) Seat 2: jesus408 ($59.65 in chips) Seat 3: Mardagg ($104.55 in chips) Seat 5: wandigo ($97.95 in chips) Seat 6: incognito76 ($24.80 in chips) Seat 7: dollardoc ($48.40 in chips) Seat 8: VinceC ($108.25 in chips) Seat 9: koons345 ($53 in chips) koons345: posts small blind $0.50hauff2: posts big blind $1*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to wandigo [Ac Kc]jesus408: folds Mardagg: folds wandigo: raises $2 to $3urnam0 has returnedincognito76: folds dollardoc: folds VinceC: calls $3koons345: calls $2.50hauff2: folds *** FLOP *** [As Kd 7c]koons345: checks wandigo: checks VinceC: checks *** TURN *** [As Kd 7c] [9s]koons345: bets $5wandigo: raises $9 to $14VinceC: raises $20 to $34koons345: folds wandigo: calls $20*** RIVER *** [As Kd 7c 9s] [6d]wandigo: checks VinceC: bets $71.25 and is all-inwandigo said, "99?"wandigo: calls $60.95 and is all-in*** SHOW DOWN ***VinceC: shows [Ad Ah] (three of a kind, Aces)wandigo: shows [Ac Kc] (two pair, Aces and Kings)VinceC collected $201.90 from potwandigo said, "nh"Was really thinking A9 there, just not sure if I could've gotten away from it or not.. Any thoughts MUCH appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites
CoranMoran 0 Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 Slowplaying this flop is a very very bad idea.--cm Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskey16 1 Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 I don't think that I get away from it, but I know that you flopped big, but I don't like checking the flop there.Bet out, make it look like a continuation bet to get action. In this case, flopping this big, and based on the action, I find it hard to get away. However, if it hadn been 99, or a turned face card, you're giving other likely holdings a chance to not just catch up, but beat you. And at .50/1, unless you have a read on a really tricky player, you want to build the pot with Top Two if they'll call you with a weak A.In this case, I just think you got coolered, and move on. You might have been able to get away from the All-in based on the action on the turn, but I know I have a hard time laying that down. Link to post Share on other sites
The Bwaves 0 Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 PokerStars Game #6505569400: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/10/03 - 13:53:56 (ET)Table 'Mekbuda II' 9-max Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 1: hauff2 ($49.30 in chips) Seat 2: jesus408 ($59.65 in chips) Seat 3: Mardagg ($104.55 in chips) Seat 5: wandigo ($97.95 in chips) Seat 6: incognito76 ($24.80 in chips) Seat 7: dollardoc ($48.40 in chips) Seat 8: VinceC ($108.25 in chips) Seat 9: koons345 ($53 in chips) koons345: posts small blind $0.50hauff2: posts big blind $1*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to wandigo [Ac Kc]jesus408: folds Mardagg: folds wandigo: raises $2 to $3urnam0 has returnedincognito76: folds dollardoc: folds VinceC: calls $3koons345: calls $2.50hauff2: folds *** FLOP *** [As Kd 7c]koons345: checks wandigo: checks VinceC: checks *** TURN *** [As Kd 7c] [9s]koons345: bets $5wandigo: raises $9 to $14VinceC: raises $20 to $34koons345: folds wandigo: calls $20*** RIVER *** [As Kd 7c 9s] [6d]wandigo: checks VinceC: bets $71.25 and is all-inwandigo said, "99?"wandigo: calls $60.95 and is all-in*** SHOW DOWN ***VinceC: shows [Ad Ah] (three of a kind, Aces)wandigo: shows [Ac Kc] (two pair, Aces and Kings)VinceC collected $201.90 from potwandigo said, "nh"Was really thinking A9 there, just not sure if I could've gotten away from it or not.. Any thoughts MUCH appreciated.Well PF nothing indicates he has a big pair. Top two is so vulnerable I really hate it. There is an indication on the turn that your beat but I mean top two and a blank nine hits and you raise and VinceC re-raises that to mean seems like a strong flop hand unless he hit trip nines.IMHO I would have gone broke. Unless I was playing UBER tight or something and making HELMUTHIAN laydowns. Link to post Share on other sites
anyone1 0 Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 How could you NOT get away? You're calling to try and split the pot at best. Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted October 3, 2006 Author Share Posted October 3, 2006 My check on the flop was kind of a trap to koons. There were a few hands earlier where I would bet PF, and then in position, I'd check after him on the flop and he'd bet the turn every time and I'd fold. I had a good feeling that he would bet at this turn regardless and I could come over the top, but just ran into some bad luck with Vince. Link to post Share on other sites
WallstreetMSU 0 Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 i wouldnt have gotten away from it. His reraise seemed like A9 to me. But i dont know... thats tough to get away from.Definitely didnt put him on AA Link to post Share on other sites
TeeSludge 0 Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 PokerStars Game #6505569400: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/10/03 - 13:53:56 (ET)Table 'Mekbuda II' 9-max Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 1: hauff2 ($49.30 in chips) Seat 2: jesus408 ($59.65 in chips) Seat 3: Mardagg ($104.55 in chips) Seat 5: wandigo ($97.95 in chips) Seat 6: incognito76 ($24.80 in chips) Seat 7: dollardoc ($48.40 in chips) Seat 8: VinceC ($108.25 in chips) Seat 9: koons345 ($53 in chips) koons345: posts small blind $0.50hauff2: posts big blind $1*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to wandigo [Ac Kc]jesus408: folds Mardagg: folds wandigo: raises $2 to $3urnam0 has returnedincognito76: folds dollardoc: folds VinceC: calls $3koons345: calls $2.50hauff2: folds *** FLOP *** [As Kd 7c]koons345: checks wandigo: checks VinceC: checks *** TURN *** [As Kd 7c] [9s]koons345: bets $5wandigo: raises $9 to $14VinceC: raises $20 to $34koons345: folds wandigo: calls $20*** RIVER *** [As Kd 7c 9s] [6d]wandigo: checks VinceC: bets $71.25 and is all-inwandigo said, "99?"wandigo: calls $60.95 and is all-in*** SHOW DOWN ***VinceC: shows [Ad Ah] (three of a kind, Aces)wandigo: shows [Ac Kc] (two pair, Aces and Kings)VinceC collected $201.90 from potwandigo said, "nh"Was really thinking A9 there, just not sure if I could've gotten away from it or not.. Any thoughts MUCH appreciated.Don't post results. I saw that you said your check on the flop was to trap koons but you have to remember that this is a multiway pot and there are a lot of turn cards that you are not going to be happy with if the flop is checked around. Given the way the hand played out you were going to go broke no matter what.. coolah. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)BB ($49.30)UTG ($59.65)UTG+1 ($104.55)Hero ($97.95)MP2 ($24.80)CO ($48.40)Button ($108.25)SB ($53)Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A , K . 2 folds, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, Button calls $3, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold.Flop: ($10) A , K , 7 (3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.Turn: ($10) 9 (3 players)SB bets $5, Hero raises to $14, Button raises to $34, SB folds, Hero calls $20.River: ($83) 6 (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $71.25 (All-In), Hero calls $60.95 (All-In).Final Pot: $215.20*******************Wandigo!I know you know better than this!http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.phporhttp://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converterPlease and thank you.*********************Also, I play it the same. Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 *******************Wandigo!I know you know better than this!The last time I posted in strat, the link to that thing didn't work so I figured it got taken down. It was in my thoughts though, I swear Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Well, I certainly go broke here. However, if I were a good player, I might remember that the last few times I checked, the villain bet and I folded. This time he curiously checks and then re-re-raises on the turn. That's a pretty big indication of strength......and then I go, "I HAVE TOP TWO PAIR THE NUTZ I AM ALL IN". How could you NOT get away? You're calling to try and split the pot at best.I certainly wonder if this would be your response without the results. I don't think AK chops with A9. Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 Well, I certainly go broke here. However, if I were a good player, I might remember that the last few times I checked, the villain bet and I folded. This time he curiously checks and then re-re-raises on the turn. That's a pretty big indication of strength......and then I go, "I HAVE TOP TWO PAIR THE NUTZ I AM ALL IN".I certainly wonder if this would be your response without the results. I don't think AK chops with A9.No, Vince wasn't the one that did that, it was koons that would make that move. I didn't get in many hands with Vince from what I remember. koons bet the turn ($5) like I expected him to, but folded after Vince's re-raise. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 AA played the hand with a little trickery here. I've been mixing plays like this into my game and it has been very productive. I actually thought he had 77 but I still probably reluctantly pay this off. Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 No, Vince wasn't the one that did that, it was koons that would make that move. I didn't get in many hands with Vince from what I remember. koons bet the turn ($5) like I expected him to, but folded after Vince's re-raise.Ah, my bad. In that case, on the turn facing the original five dollar bet, I say, "I know I'm ahead of you, but I'm putting Vince on a set of aces," and I muck them face up, violating all rules of poker. Link to post Share on other sites
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