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[DiverDown4]

To all the Audioslave fans out there, I was wondering what you thought of the new single, "Be Yourself" that was release this past week, and what you expect/believe the new album will sound like? I have tickets to their "mini" tour through the US and the concert is at Avalon in Boston on April 28. Im Psyched!

[faketree]

New song is pretty good.Only problem is, when I hear audioslave, I get upset that rage broke up. I mean, what a band they were. I know it doesn't make much sense to compare them but thats the way it is. rage was just on another level that audioslave will never reach.btw, wtf is up with zack de la rochas solo album? he's been working on it for like 3 years. he's taking after trent i think.

[jayistheman]

rage is ten fold better..... i miss them as well

[DiverDown4]

zack de la rocha will never be heard from again. I'm more of a soundgarden fan than a Rage fahn, although I loved both, but i just thinjk that Audioslave blows rage out of the water and the band members would agree. I mean, comparing Chris Cornell to Zach is like comparing David Lee Roth or Sammy Hagar to Gary Cherone. Not even close!

[NormanHaupt]

Zach... and you're talking to a religious RATM fan, and, now, of course, Audioslave. Infact, last christmas, I gave their CD out as gifts to everyone, muhuhahaha ****ing expensive shit, but worth itAnyway, Yeah, Zach's solo probably won't ever come out. He's pretty heavy in the underground movement still. He's not much of a soloist anyway, in my opinion. what made RATM so good was more than the sum of their parts. It was in the message and the stength.Though, not to take away from Audioslave- either. Chris Cornell is absolutely and utterly incomprehensably awesome. Comparing him to Zach is like comparing George W. Bush to .. well, god damn every time I try thinking of something stupid, it makes a good comparison.Zach is a great lyrist, while Chris doesn't seem to be as poetically fluent. Thats not to say Cornell doesn't have his own talents.Its just apples, bananas, and coconuts.Anyway I heard the new track the other day- or, rather, the first part of it. I was rocking out and a cop pulled me over. ****ing a... lolAnyway, I had an early track they recorded that didn't make the original Album, called Monstereo. I listen and I listen.. it sounds VERY much like Chris Cornell.. but I can't place the rest of it. I got it the same time I got I Am the highway, which was leaked from the studio before it got polished. I think Monstereo was cut from the album, but its damn good. Anyone shead any light on this?While on the subject of New Rock.. holy shit, Theory Of A Dead Man is great. I'm addicted to that No Surprise track. Trust Co is coming out with a new album too- though I didn't care for the sample I heard of their new signal. The Ozzy boxed set is out, too. gg,, there's a deal for Ozzfest in there. Buy one ticket get one free. Guess he's getting Black Sabbath back together- and is co-headlining with Madien. ROCK ON!Uh.. there was something else I wanted to mention in my New Rock ramblings.. blah, I listen to too much music.

[faketree]

I'm sorry but I have to disagree.Chris Cornell is now where near as good a frontman as Zack. Not only was Zack an amazing performer, he is also one of the greatest lyricists out there. His lyrics are just on another level. Cornell, yeah, he's ok. Nothing spectacular. Soundgarden was nothing compared to some of those other bands, mostly Pearl Jam. I mean, not even in the same league.Of course the band members are going to say that its better now. Would you expect them to say, 'No, we liked it better with Zack, but, yeah, this is cool too.'I've seen audioslave and rage live and again, just no comparison.

[DiverDown4]

faketree said:

I'm sorry but I have to disagree.Chris Cornell is now where near as good a frontman as Zack. Not only was Zack an amazing performer, he is also one of the greatest lyricists out there. His lyrics are just on another level. Cornell, yeah, he's ok. Nothing spectacular. Soundgarden was nothing compared to some of those other bands, mostly Pearl Jam. I mean, not even in the same league.Of course the band members are going to say that its better now. Would you expect them to say, 'No, we liked it better with Zack, but, yeah, this is cool too.'I've seen audioslave and rage live and again, just no comparison.

Cornell is widely regarded as one of the greatest rock singers of all time. Zach? Cmon. Great Lyricist? On another level? Hes a rapping activist, what so special about that? Soundgarden wasnt in the same leagus as some of the other bands? What bands? And Pearl Jam? Chris Cornell was responsible for Pearl Jam! I can understand if you politics are an issue here, thats fine if so. But if you are comparing chris cornell to Zach, and Rage to Soundgarden, there, Musically, is no comparison.TIm Commerford didnt even know scales until he was in audioslave.

[faketree]

DiverDown4 said:

faketree said:

I'm sorry but I have to disagree.Chris Cornell is now where near as good a frontman as Zack.  Not only was Zack an amazing performer, he is also one of the greatest lyricists out there.  His lyrics are just on another level.  Cornell, yeah, he's ok.  Nothing spectacular.  Soundgarden was nothing compared to some of those other bands, mostly Pearl Jam.  I mean, not even in the same league.Of course the band members are going to say that its better now.  Would you expect them to say, 'No, we liked it better with Zack, but, yeah, this is cool too.'I've seen audioslave and rage live and again, just no comparison.

Cornell is widely regarded as one of the greatest rock singers of all time. Zach? Cmon. Great Lyricist? On another level? Hes a rapping activist, what so special about that? Soundgarden wasnt in the same leagus as some of the other bands? What bands? And Pearl Jam? Chris Cornell was responsible for Pearl Jam! I can understand if you politics are an issue here, thats fine if so. But if you are comparing chris cornell to Zach, and Rage to Soundgarden, there, Musically, is no comparison.TIm Commerford didnt even know scales until he was in audioslave.

I'm sorry but where do you see Chris Cornell being one of the greatest rock singers of all time? That just sounds like blasphemy to me. there are so many better than him.chris cornell was not responsible for pearl jam. mother love bone was responsible for pearl jam. yes, they were friends an came up at the same time. but to say soundgarden is responsible for pearl jam is just completely insane.i'll agree that my personal politics definitely gives me a strong affinity for zack's lyrics, but he was just so unique in his delivery. i have much respect for that.i don't hold out much hope for zack solo project. but, here's a fact, cornell's solo album was complete crap. just complete garbage...that CD is a coaster now.

[Pupsta]

I don't see Cornell being one of the best rock singers of all time...i see him as THE best. Impeccable voice, great presence, everything needed in a frontman and then some.On the original topic, I'm not digging "Be Yourself." It's a bit slow for my tastes, and to be blunt, it bores the hell out of me. I'll still pick up the new album though.

[NormanHaupt]

Uh.. Chris Cornell greatest rock singer of all time..? uh..Sorry.. I'm laughing so hard my teeth hurt.Lets not forget Freddie Mercury and.. and.. uh.. I'm tired, no others are coming to mind.There are much GREATER singers, period. What makes Chris Cornell so good is his poetry- He's a descent writer. But, lets be realistic. Greatest of all time? I'm sure many would argue the merits of Ozzy and.. Christ why can't I think of any more- I'm exhausted, lolEven if you just stick to the 90's, Kurt Cobain, Anthony Kedis, and James Hetfeld. Even more recently, and I don't know the dudes name, but the lead singer from Shine Down. omfg, he's got an incredible voice.I would put Chris above the plateau of good rock singers, maybe even one of the better ones. but not the best. Thats reserved for a Freddie Mercury.

[renaedawn]

NormanHaupt said:

Uh.. Chris Cornell greatest rock singer of all time..? uh..Sorry.. I'm laughing so hard my teeth hurt.Lets not forget Freddie Mercury and.. and.. uh.. I'm tired, no others are coming to mind.

Okay, let's preface this by saying I absolutely love Audioslave and as I've said in other threads, Chris Cornell's voice makes me tingly.That being said "greatest" of anything is pretty hard to quantify. So, to help Norm out how about these:Maynard James KeenanRobert PlantRoger WatersDave Mustainor even Sammy Hagar???

[faketree]

renaedawn said:

NormanHaupt said:

Uh.. Chris Cornell greatest rock singer of all time..? uh..Sorry.. I'm laughing so hard my teeth hurt.Lets not forget Freddie Mercury and.. and.. uh.. I'm tired, no others are coming to mind.

Okay, let's preface this by saying I absolutely love Audioslave and as I've said in other threads, Chris Cornell's voice makes me tingly.That being said "greatest" of anything is pretty hard to quantify. So, to help Norm out how about these:Maynard James KeenanRobert PlantRoger WatersDave Mustainor even Sammy Hagar???

there you go rena. i wasn't saying cornell was crap, but the BEST? just insane. your list is quite good. it might be blasphemy to say Hagar and not say david lee roth. i mean, Van Hagar? come on.deifnitely maynard, definitely plant, definitely waters, mustaine i'd argue with but thats just not my thing.what about springsteen? i mean, come on! springsteen for gods sake.i'd add trent reznor too.

[renaedawn]

faketree said:

renaedawn said:

NormanHaupt said:

Uh.. Chris Cornell greatest rock singer of all time..? uh..Sorry.. I'm laughing so hard my teeth hurt.Lets not forget Freddie Mercury and.. and.. uh.. I'm tired, no others are coming to mind.

Okay, let's preface this by saying I absolutely love Audioslave and as I've said in other threads, Chris Cornell's voice makes me tingly.That being said "greatest" of anything is pretty hard to quantify. So, to help Norm out how about these:Maynard James KeenanRobert PlantRoger WatersDave Mustainor even Sammy Hagar???

there you go rena. i wasn't saying cornell was crap, but the BEST? just insane. your list is quite good. it might be blasphemy to say Hagar and not say david lee roth. i mean, Van Hagar? come on.deifnitely maynard, definitely plant, definitely waters, mustaine i'd argue with but thats just not my thing.what about springsteen? i mean, come on! springsteen for gods sake.i'd add trent reznor too.

Van Halen fans never can agree on the Roth vs. Haggar debate but we all agree that either is preferable to Gary Sherrone (or however you spell it). I personally prefer Haggar but I can appreciate Roth, too. At least until he starts that Ice Cream Man crap. "I'm your ice cream man. Stop me when I'm passing by"?? You don't have anything more relevant to say than that, Dave???Reznor - Yep, I'd agree there.

[MilesZS]

Eddie Vedder. I'd add him. Obviously this is personal opinion, but I'd take EV over Cornell any day of the week, even though I've always been a big Soundgarden fan as well. Pearl Jam is just... so much better. hahaI like Chris Cornell, and I like Audioslave, but I loved Rage. I don't necessarily think either band is better than the other, but for me, I loved Rage. If we could go back to that, I'd be ecstatic. Plus I think the world really really needs a Rage Against the Machine right now. If you guys see Zack, tell him I'll play guitar for him. Hell, I'll even break down and play bass if he's got a guitarist lined up.

[renaedawn]

MilesZS said:

Plus I think the world really really needs a Rage Against the Machine right now. If you guys see Zack, tell him I'll play guitar for him. Hell, I'll even break down and play bass if he's got a guitarist lined up.

Why do guitarists always think playing bass is a lower activity? I'm not meaning to be sarcastic, really (if I was I would add the sarcasm warning :wink: ), but I have several friends who play and they all make comments like this. I just wondered why? Is it because bass is easier?

[DiverDown4]

Even if you just stick to the 90's, Kurt Cobain, Anthony Kedis, and James Hetfeld. Even more recently, and I don't know the dudes name, but the lead singer from Shine Down. omfg, he's got an incredible voice. Some people dont listen to well. I said, "Chris cornell is widely considered one of the greatest rock singers of all time." I never said he was indeed the greatest, I said he is widely considered, "One" of the greatest. That is a fact!I just dont understand where people come up with people who are better. Im talking about chris cornell's voice. James Hetfield and Anthony Keidis dont compare. With that said, is it an argument that Hetfield is a better entertainer, lyricist, whatever, Sure, theres an argument for everything. Hoever you have to admit, pure singing talent, Chris Cornell is up there with the Elite, Plant, Mercury, Sammy Hagar.David Lee Roth was not a good singer, Hagar was waaaay better. But why is it that Diamond Dave is more beloved? HIs presence on stage and personality. SO my point is that Chris Cornell is one of the best singers ever. If you disagree thats fine, its all about taste. Being a good singer compared to a frontman is different.Anyway, I didnt mean to get into a huge argument with everyone, i was just asking what people thought their new album would be like. (Eddie Vedder Sucks) JK dont freak out

[renaedawn]

DiverDown - It's not an argument, just healthy discussion. It's okay. We all love you.And you're right, Sammy had a WAY better voice than Dave.I thought Van Halen should have picked up David Coverdale of Whitesnake instead of Gary Sherone. (sp?) Coverdale has an amazing rock voice.

[faketree]

MilesZS said:

Eddie Vedder. I'd add him. Obviously this is personal opinion, but I'd take EV over Cornell any day of the week, even though I've always been a big Soundgarden fan as well. Pearl Jam is just... so much better. hahaI like Chris Cornell, and I like Audioslave, but I loved Rage. I don't necessarily think either band is better than the other, but for me, I loved Rage. If we could go back to that, I'd be ecstatic. Plus I think the world really really needs a Rage Against the Machine right now. If you guys see Zack, tell him I'll play guitar for him. Hell, I'll even break down and play bass if he's got a guitarist lined up.

freakin' A man!!! this is my favorite post in this thread. i mentioned pearl jam in my previous posts here but i didn't mention EV specifically for a reason. what is that reason? the first thing people say when EV is brought up, 'I can't understand a word he says!'.......read the lyrics sheet then damnit.the world definitely needs a rage now-a-days. i mean, talk about the voice of a generation. that is why its hard for me to except cornell as the new guy. its just not the same. i need to hear 'fuk you i won't do what you tell me'.and i'm adding Thom Yorke to my list. i didn't want to mention it because most don't know about him. but he is an unbelievable singer with an incredible range. radiohead is the pure fukin nuts!!!

[NormanHaupt]

Yorke is incredible, yeah.I only mentioned Hetfeld because he is so widely reconized. you're right, there's a difference between being a strong frontman and being a good vocalist. Anthony Kedis, though, is both. He writes all his own stuff, too.EV is incredible, too.i'm not so into the 80's rock scene so I won't comment on van halen or the other hair metal shit they put out. I'm sure this is goin to cause a stir, but Chester Bennington from LP. He's been singing all his life, he's won some competitions in California- and sang in a choir for most of his life. He really does have one of the best voices on the radio today.We're still talking about harder, rock, too. If we broaden it further, you add Dave Matthews, Aaron Lewis, and .. god I'get brain freezes today, the lead from Incubis. Shit..My point is.. there are tons of voies out there. We're all Audioslave fans.. I don't think I don't know anyone who isn't. Even my ex who listened to nothing but christan music found Cornell's voice appealing. But "widely considered among the best" isn't an accurate statement.

[faketree]

NormanHaupt said:

Yorke is incredible, yeah.I only mentioned Hetfeld because he is so widely reconized. you're right, there's a difference between being a strong frontman and being a good vocalist. Anthony Kedis, though, is both. He writes all his own stuff, too.EV is incredible, too.i'm not so into the 80's rock scene so I won't comment on van halen or the other hair metal censored they put out. I'm sure this is goin to cause a stir, but Chester Bennington from LP. He's been singing all his life, he's won some competitions in California- and sang in a choir for most of his life. He really does have one of the best voices on the radio today.We're still talking about harder, rock, too. If we broaden it further, you add Dave Matthews, Aaron Lewis, and .. god I'get brain freezes today, the lead from Incubis. censored..My point is.. there are tons of voies out there. We're all Audioslave fans.. I don't think I don't know anyone who isn't. Even my ex who listened to nothing but christan music found Cornell's voice appealing. But "widely considered among the best" isn't an accurate statement.

this is true about chester. i'm not a big linkin park fan, but his voice is incredible.