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[BlunderCheck]

Hand the first: The big lossPokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)saw flop|saw showdownBB ($2.60)UTG ($1.63)UTG+1 ($6.54)Nemesis ($3.76)MP2 ($1.98)CO ($5.08)Hero ($4.07)SB ($8.58)Preflop: Hero is Button with K , 3 , A , 4 . UTG calls $0.05, 1 fold, Nemesis calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.05, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: ($0.25) A , 7 , K (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Nemesis checks, Hero bets $0.05, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $0.05, Nemesis calls $0.05.Turn: ($0.40) K (3 players)UTG checks, Nemesis checks, Hero checks.River: ($0.40) 8 (3 players)UTG checks, Nemesis bets $0.4, Hero raises to $0.8, UTG folds, Nemesis raises to $1.3, Hero calls $0.50.Results in white below: Nemesis has Jd 7h 8h 8s (High: full house, eights full of kings). Hero has Kc 3h Ad 4c (Low: 8, 7, 4, 3, A | High: full house, kings full of aces). Outcome: Hero wins $3. Hand the 2nd: The 2nd blowPokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)saw flop|saw showdownButton ($2.45)SB ($1.48)BB ($6.54)Nemesis ($2.41)UTG+1 ($2.03)MP1 ($5.08)Hero ($5.52)CO ($8.53)Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7d , 6d , 8s , 6h . Nemesis raises to $0.17, 5 folds, SB calls $0.15, BB calls $0.12.Flop: ($0.51) 3h , Ah , 2h (3 players)SB checks, BB bets $0.2, Nemesis calls $0.20, SB calls $0.20.Turn: ($1.11) Kd (3 players)SB checks, BB bets $0.65, Nemesis calls $0.65, SB folds.River: ($2.41) Qh (2 players)BB bets $0.5, Nemesis calls $0.50.Final Pot: $3.41Results in white below: Nemesis has As 3d 9s 2d (High: two pair, aces and threes). BB has 7c 5h Ks 7h (Low: 7, 5, 3, 2, A | High: flush, ace high). Outcome: BB wins $3.41. Hand the 3rd: I read tilt? PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)saw flop|saw showdownCO ($2.45)Button ($2.11)SB ($8.28)Nemesis ($0.89)UTG ($2.03)UTG+1 ($5.08)Hero ($5.52)MP2 ($8.53)Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 5h , Ks , Qc , Kc . UTG calls $0.05, 6 folds, Nemesis raises to $0.22, UTG folds.Final Pot: $0.29Results in white below: No showdown. Nemesis wins $0.29. Hand the last: Played like a donkey? PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)saw flop|saw showdownMP2 ($2.45)CO ($2.11)Button ($8.26)SB=Nemesis($0.96)BB ($1.98)UTG ($5.08)Hero ($5.52)MP1 ($8.53)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 4 , 5 , A , 2 . UTG calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, 2 folds, CO calls $0.05, Button raises to $0.1, Nemesis raises to $0.5, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.45, Hero calls $0.45, CO calls $0.45, Button calls $0.40.Flop: ($2.55) T , Q , 4 (5 players)Nemesis bets $0.46 (All-In), UTG folds, Hero calls $0.46, CO calls $0.46, Button calls $0.46.Turn: ($4.39) T (4 players, 1 all-in)Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.River: ($4.39) 7 (4 players, 1 all-in)Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.Final Pot: $4.39Results in white below: Hero has 4h 5d Ah 2h (High: two pair, tens and fours). CO has Kc 3d As 8s (High: one pair, tens). Button has 3c Js Ac 8c (High: one pair, tens). Nemesis has 6d 5h Qd 3s (High: flush, queen high). Outcome: Nemesis wins $4.39. The first hand I missed a reraise on the river, o well. I thought nemesis had went on tilt because at that table I never seen that person raise the pot at all, at any time (isn't that aggressive). At the turn i didnt put nemesis on anything really, maybe a pair on the board at best. I'm wondering about the last hand, since I had already called the 50cent bet preflop, if the 46cent call on the flop was warrented with just the backdoor low draw.i know now, after all this that its probably a horrible call but already commited a bunch of chips(of which belonged to nemesis in the first place)...so, any thoughts on that call on the flop?

[Wingman008]

Hand 1: I would raise preflop. But that may not be good?Also, I would lead out about 1/2pot bet on the flop. With 4other people, I would think somone is bound to call.Turn: Check I think is fineRiver: /shrug it happens.Hand 2: I have no idea if it is a proper call or not. Odds are not my thing, but with that in mind, I would fold it. You have....nothing....except the backdoor lo.

[cwicktricks]

Concerning the last hand.....The pot is $2.55. It's $.46 to you with two players to act behind you. The only way you scoop here is if the turn and river come 3(not diamonds), then A,2, or 5(not diamonds). That gives you 7 outs {3 , 3 , 3 , A , A , 2 , 2 } on the turn followed by 6 outs on the river which you have to hit consecutively. So that gives us a 2.1% chance to scoop (7/45*6/44 = 2.1%). So converting to odds gives us 46.6:1 [(100%-2.1%)/2.1% = 46.6] against scooping. Since we're only getting pot odds of 4.5:1 I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say we're in bad shape here.What about the times we get the low half? To win 1/2 the pot we have 21 outs {3 Aces, 3 2's, 4 3's, 3 5's, 4 6's, 4 8's} on the turn, and then 17 or 18 outs on the river depending on what hits the turn.So that gives us a 14.7% chance to win half the pot (17.5/45*16.5/44 = 14.7%). Converting to odds gives us 5.8:1 [(100%-14.7%)/14.7% = 5.8] against winning half the pot. 5.8:1 compared to our actual pot odds of 4.5:1 may not look so bad at first, but it's still a bad call.Now factor into account that we aren't all-in on the flop, OTB is still to act behind us and may bet again on the turn or river. Bottom line is this should be an easy fold for you.