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#1 Actuary

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Posted 26 September 2006 - 09:55 PM

I've been all in once, just pushed 55 from BB after UTG limped and SB folded.
Blinds have been here for 5 mins and will be for 5 mins more.

solid players, BB is a little taggier than SB,


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

CoolerThanYou (t3540)
SB (t2770)
BB (t5690)

Preflop: CoolerThanYou is Button with , .
CoolerThanYou raises to t400, SB calls t300, BB calls t200.

Flop: (t1200) , , (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets t200, CoolerThanYou shoves


yeah, bubble time.
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Posted 26 September 2006 - 10:35 PM

I would have limped or raised more preflop. If I raised more preflop, then I would jam like you did since you can represent high cards. If I limped, then I would call the weak lead and see the turn.

I don't like a normal reraise here because since BB might try to push you out thinking he has more fold equity on the bubble.
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Posted 26 September 2006 - 10:51 PM

This is a 6-player $33 SNG on Party right? What's "$108/72"?

Anyway, raise more preflop if you want to steal the blinds. However, I am aware that this hand is being analyzed without any prior knowledge of previous hands. If you have been successful in stealing the blinds in previous hands by min-raising, then go ahead and keep doing it since your risk-reward ratio will be excellent.

Post flop, I like the jam. BB's feeler bet seem like a J or Q and if it's a Q, you're likely to get called and be a favorite with your monster draw.

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 03:27 AM

QUOTE (AcesUp46 @ Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 2:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is a 6-player $33 SNG on Party right? What's "$108/72"?

Payout structure.
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Posted 27 September 2006 - 07:50 AM

smallish raises were taking blinds down preflop.
I guess 600 might have better chance of taking the blinds; but I don't mind a 3 way pot here for 200 less, or in case SB/BB wakes up.

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 09:25 AM

Is there any merit to limping this preflop, to encourage action between SB and BB? I'm not advocating, just asking.
I should change this.

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 09:30 AM

QUOTE (Briguy @ Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 9:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is there any merit to limping this preflop, to encourage action between SB and BB? I'm not advocating, just asking.


by between, you mean entice a battle and I sneak out?
Or you mean AMONG the 3 of us?

I do limp this often.
THis was a little tight table and so a min raise could take in down more often than normal preflop.

#8 Briguy

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 09:40 AM

I mean you sneak out if there's a raise-call behind you.
I should change this.

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 09:52 AM

QUOTE (Briguy @ Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 9:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I mean you sneak out if there's a raise-call behind you.


I've been known to juice the pot and leave if I"m a big stack and the other players take their hands too far. Some say it discourages the SB from completing if the BigStack is already in. In this situation, besides not being a big stack, these players were decent and the chance SB gets back in the game is far better than him donking off chips, for me to juice pot as a main goal

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 10:29 AM

QUOTE (Actuary @ Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 2:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've been known to juice the pot and leave if I"m a big stack and the other players take their hands too far. Some say it discourages the SB from completing if the BigStack is already in. In this situation, besides not being a big stack, these players were decent and the chance SB gets back in the game is far better than him donking off chips, for me to juice pot as a main goal


Kewl. I'm too used to the $5 STTs, where bubble play can be quite illogical. Unless you run with the assumption that most people hate money.
I should change this.

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 01:03 PM

I'd limp preflop and play the flop like you did.
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Posted 27 September 2006 - 01:08 PM

QUOTE (copernicus @ Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 1:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd limp preflop and play the flop like you did.

even at a tighter table where min raises were taking down blinds ?

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Posted 27 September 2006 - 01:18 PM

QUOTE (Actuary @ Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 5:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
even at a tighter table where min raises were taking down blinds ?


I responded before i saw your later post. I still might limp on the button occasionally with soooted hands hoping to flop well and trap. If it gets shown down without busting anyone you might get some more action from it later on.
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Posted 27 September 2006 - 07:00 PM

QUOTE (Actuary @ Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 2:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
even at a tighter table where min raises were taking down blinds ?


This makes me nervous that your hand got two callers...gutsy play, and one I would have probably made. Since I would have done it, it seems likely you should have done the opposite and folded.

Edit: Re: limping - what flop would you have wanted that was better than this with a limp? How would limping have caused to play this differently postflop?

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Posted 28 September 2006 - 07:18 AM

QUOTE (SpiderGuard @ Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 7:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Edit: Re: limping - what flop would you have wanted that was better than this with a limp? How would limping have caused to play this differently postflop?


pot would be 800 after BB leads out on flop.
And I'm much less likely to push then.

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 08:57 AM

I think I prefer just calling the flop. Take the fantastic odds he's giving you.

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 09:01 AM

I like the play sir, and nice converter!
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