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#1 Absolute

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 05:41 AM

I am playing in a tournament to qualify fot the Bellagio WPT Championship. I will update this post with key and informational hands from tournament here as I play.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) converterMP2 (1420)CO (1870)Button (1270)SB (1480)BB (1480)UTG (1480)Hero (1500)MP1 (1500)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Ks, Th. UTG raises to 40, UTG calls 1360.Flop: (t2830) 8h, 6c, 4d (2 players)UTG checks, MP2 bets 20 (All-In), UTG calls 20.Turn: (t2870) 3h (2 players, 1 all-in)River: (t2870) Td (2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: 2870So many NL players can't make this fold for the price of the blinds in EP. You should.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) converterMP1 (4450)MP2 (3240)CO (1240)Button (1520)SB (1560)BB (1450)Hero (1470)UTG+1 (330)Preflop: Hero is UTG with A:club:, 7:club:. Hero calls 20, 2 folds, MP2 calls 20, 1 fold, Button calls 20, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (100) K:heart:, K:club:, 2:diamond: (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.Turn: (100) Q:club: (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 100, MP2 folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.Final Pot: 200Looks standard to me. Any argument on just calling here PF with A7s? Also would like to hear if anyone doesn't like the bet on the turn. With 4 other players it was an obvious bet, but how much do you bet here?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converterMP1 (5070)MP2 (3240)CO (1130)Button (1320)SB (1920)BB (1100)UTG (1390)Hero (1510)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q:diamond:, K:diamond:. UTG calls 30, Hero raises to 90, MP1 raises to 270, 5 folds, UTG calls 240, Hero folds.Easy fold.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converterMP1 (5805)MP2 (3240)MP3 (1130)CO (3320)Button (1905)SB (1070)BB (790)Hero (1420)UTG+1 (7420)Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q:heart:, K:spade:. Hero raises to 90, UTG+1 calls 90, 2 folds, MP3 calls 90, 4 folds.Flop: (315) 5:diamond:, 3:club:, Q:spade: (3 players)Hero bets 330, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds.Final Pot: 645Standard PF raise, not looking to get cute when top pair flops.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converterCO (5615)Button (2090)SB (1550)BB (3855)UTG (1055)UTG+1 (1655)Hero (1805)MP2 (8475)Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Qh, Kh. 1 fold, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls 210, MP2 calls 210.Flop: (t960) 4c, 7h, Td (3 players)SB bets 1250 (All-In), Hero folds, MP2 folds.Final Pot: 2210SB was LAG, I took a shot and missed on the flop. Probably a bad play on my part. If I keep doing this I won't last too long at all. Also, I keep getting dealt this goddamn hand.

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 06:46 AM

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 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) converterMP1 (4450)MP2 (3240)CO (1240)Button (1520)SB (1560)BB (1450)Hero (1470)UTG+1 (330)Preflop: Hero is UTG with A:club:, 7:club:.    Hero calls 20, 2 folds, MP2 calls 20, 1 fold, Button calls 20, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (100) K:heart:, K:club:, 2:diamond: (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.Turn: (100) Q:club: (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 100, MP2 folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.Final Pot: 200Looks standard to me. Any argument on just calling here PF with A7s? Also would like to hear if anyone doesn't like the bet on the turn. With 4 other players it was an obvious bet, but how much do you bet here?
I would have made the same pot-sized bet, but would have been ready to fold if another player came over the top--would have been very aware that one of the players might be slowplaying a K. Still, with no K out there you are likely to take the pot down right there b/c your opponents are afraid that YOU were slowplaying the K. Also, this might be the only chance you have to take down this pot, and checking here gives a free card that can improve one of your opponents, but not you.As for the preflop check, I think it's OK as far as mixing your game up. But I raise this more often UTG, if I choose to play it at all in that position, which isn't very often--depends on the opponents.

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 07:28 AM

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I am playing in a tournament to qualify fot the Bellagio WPT Championship. I will update this post with key and informational hands from tournament here as I play.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converterCO (5615)Button (2090)SB (1550)BB (3855)UTG (1055)UTG+1 (1655)Hero (1805)MP2 (8475)Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Qh, Kh.    1 fold, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls 210, MP2 calls 210.Flop: (t960) 4c, 7h, Td (3 players)SB bets 1250 (All-In), Hero folds, MP2 folds.Final Pot: 2210SB was LAG, I took a shot and missed on the flop. Probably a bad play on my part. If I keep doing this I won't last too long at all. Also, I keep getting dealt this censored hand.
You have to play KQ suited. Calling the raise is fine, and there's a good chance SB either has Aces or Ace high Nothing you could do about it.
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Posted 24 March 2005 - 01:38 PM

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You have to play KQ suited.
Nah, you dont have to play KQ suited. with a reraise from the small blind, the hands he might be reraising with out of position would more than likely have your hand dominated. But if the read on the SB was LAG, I don't think it was a bad call, especially with position on the reraiser.

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 03:14 PM

No, playing KQs to a raise of that size is a leak. I want better than 3 to 1 to call with KQs to a raise of that size.Notice what happened when I "got sick" of folding it.I got moved off my hand immediately by the PF aggressor because I didn't hit.Chip spewing is what that is.

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 03:44 PM

I am playing in a tournament to qualify fot the Bellagio WPT Championship. I will update this post with key and informational hands from tournament here as I play.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) converterMP2 (1420)CO (1870)Button (1270)SB (1480)BB (1480)UTG (1480)Hero (1500)MP1 (1500)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Ks, Th. UTG raises to 40, UTG calls 1360.Flop: (t2830) 8h, 6c, 4d (2 players)UTG checks, MP2 bets 20 (All-In), UTG calls 20.Turn: (t2870) 3h (2 players, 1 all-in)River: (t2870) Td (2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: 2870So many NL players can't make this fold for the price of the blinds in EP. You should.DONT RAISE WITH THAT CRUMMY HAND, JUST FOLD IT AND DEFINATELY DONT CALL AN ALLINPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) converterMP1 (4450)MP2 (3240)CO (1240)Button (1520)SB (1560)BB (1450)Hero (1470)UTG+1 (330)Preflop: Hero is UTG with A:club:, 7:club:. Hero calls 20, 2 folds, MP2 calls 20, 1 fold, Button calls 20, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (100) K:heart:, K:club:, 2:diamond: (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.Turn: (100) Q:club: (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 100, MP2 folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.Final Pot: 200Looks standard to me. Any argument on just calling here PF with A7s? Also would like to hear if anyone doesn't like the bet on the turn. With 4 other players it was an obvious bet, but how much do you bet here?YOU MAKE NO SENSE WHATSOEVER, YOU RAISE WITH KTo UTG BUT JUST LIMP WITH A7s.....WHICH IS STUPID, FOLD THIS CRUMMY HAND TOOPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converterMP1 (5070)MP2 (3240)CO (1130)Button (1320)SB (1920)BB (1100)UTG (1390)Hero (1510)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q:diamond:, K:diamond:. UTG calls 30, Hero raises to 90, MP1 raises to 270, 5 folds, UTG calls 240, Hero folds.Easy fold.SEEMS YOU FINALLY PLAYED ONE CORRECTLYPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converterMP1 (5805)MP2 (3240)MP3 (1130)CO (3320)Button (1905)SB (1070)BB (790)Hero (1420)UTG+1 (7420)Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q:heart:, K:spade:. Hero raises to 90, UTG+1 calls 90, 2 folds, MP3 calls 90, 4 folds.Flop: (315) 5:diamond:, 3:club:, Q:spade: (3 players)Hero bets 330, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds.Final Pot: 645Standard PF raise, not looking to get cute when top pair flops.DONT BET THAT MUCH, MUCH TOO BIG, NO DRAWS TO WORRY(24, 46 WOULDNT OF CALLED) SHOULD BET AROUND 125-175 THEREPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converterCO (5615)Button (2090)SB (1550)BB (3855)UTG (1055)UTG+1 (1655)Hero (1805)MP2 (8475)Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Qh, Kh. 1 fold, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls 210, MP2 calls 210.Flop: (t960) 4c, 7h, Td (3 players)SB bets 1250 (All-In), Hero folds, MP2 folds.Final Pot: 2210SB was LAG, I took a shot and missed on the flop. Probably a bad play on my part. If I keep doing this I won't last too long at all. Also, I keep getting dealt this censored hand.YOU GOT ANOTHER WON RIGHTBTW THE CAPS ARE NOT INTENDING TO "EMPHYSIZE" MY OPINION BUT TO BE ABLE TO DISTINGUISH MY TEXT FOUR ALL THE OTHER BOLDED STUFF

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 03:45 PM

I am playing in a tournament to qualify fot the Bellagio WPT Championship. I will update this post with key and informational hands from tournament here as I play.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) converterMP2 (1420)CO (1870)Button (1270)SB (1480)BB (1480)UTG (1480)Hero (1500)MP1 (1500)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Ks, Th. UTG raises to 40, UTG calls 1360.Flop: (t2830) 8h, 6c, 4d (2 players)UTG checks, MP2 bets 20 (All-In), UTG calls 20.Turn: (t2870) 3h (2 players, 1 all-in)River: (t2870) Td (2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: 2870So many NL players can't make this fold for the price of the blinds in EP. You should.DONT RAISE WITH THAT CRUMMY HAND, JUST FOLD IT AND DEFINATELY DONT CALL AN ALLINPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) converterMP1 (4450)MP2 (3240)CO (1240)Button (1520)SB (1560)BB (1450)Hero (1470)UTG+1 (330)Preflop: Hero is UTG with A:club:, 7:club:. Hero calls 20, 2 folds, MP2 calls 20, 1 fold, Button calls 20, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (100) K:heart:, K:club:, 2:diamond: (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.Turn: (100) Q:club: (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 100, MP2 folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.Final Pot: 200Looks standard to me. Any argument on just calling here PF with A7s? Also would like to hear if anyone doesn't like the bet on the turn. With 4 other players it was an obvious bet, but how much do you bet here?YOU MAKE NO SENSE WHATSOEVER, YOU RAISE WITH KTo UTG BUT JUST LIMP WITH A7s.....WHICH IS STUPID, FOLD THIS CRUMMY HAND TOOPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converterMP1 (5070)MP2 (3240)CO (1130)Button (1320)SB (1920)BB (1100)UTG (1390)Hero (1510)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q:diamond:, K:diamond:. UTG calls 30, Hero raises to 90, MP1 raises to 270, 5 folds, UTG calls 240, Hero folds.Easy fold.SEEMS YOU FINALLY PLAYED ONE CORRECTLYPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converterMP1 (5805)MP2 (3240)MP3 (1130)CO (3320)Button (1905)SB (1070)BB (790)Hero (1420)UTG+1 (7420)Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q:heart:, K:spade:. Hero raises to 90, UTG+1 calls 90, 2 folds, MP3 calls 90, 4 folds.Flop: (315) 5:diamond:, 3:club:, Q:spade: (3 players)Hero bets 330, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds.Final Pot: 645Standard PF raise, not looking to get cute when top pair flops.DONT BET THAT MUCH, MUCH TOO BIG, NO DRAWS TO WORRY(24, 46 WOULDNT OF CALLED) SHOULD BET AROUND 125-175 THEREPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converterCO (5615)Button (2090)SB (1550)BB (3855)UTG (1055)UTG+1 (1655)Hero (1805)MP2 (8475)Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Qh, Kh. 1 fold, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls 210, MP2 calls 210.Flop: (t960) 4c, 7h, Td (3 players)SB bets 1250 (All-In), Hero folds, MP2 folds.Final Pot: 2210SB was LAG, I took a shot and missed on the flop. Probably a bad play on my part. If I keep doing this I won't last too long at all. Also, I keep getting dealt this censored hand.YOU GOT ANOTHER ONE RIGHTBTW THE CAPS ARE NOT INTENDING TO "EMPHYSIZE" MY OPINION BUT TO BE ABLE TO DISTINGUISH MY TEXT FORM ALL THE OTHER BOLDED STUFF

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 03:51 PM

Hey Eddie...in the first hand, Absolute is UTG+1. UTG raised, not our Hero here. Absolute was pointing out that many players would've called there with this hand when they shouldn't.

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 04:32 PM

He didn't raise with K10.

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 04:40 PM

Eddie is off his ****ing rocker again.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Ks, Th. UTG raises to 40, 2 folds, MP2 raises to 1400, 4 folds, UTG calls 1360.
Looks like I folded!

EddieTheIdiot said:

DONT RAISE WITH THAT CRUMMY HAND, JUST FOLD IT AND DEFINATELY DONT CALL AN ALLIN
Don't post anymore please.

DontFeedTheEddie said:

YOU MAKE NO SENSE WHATSOEVER, YOU RAISE WITH KTo UTG BUT JUST LIMP WITH A7s.....WHICH IS STUPID, FOLD THIS CRUMMY HAND TOO
I think I will keep limping with A7 suited, but explaining this to you would be difficult. How can I expect you to understand plain english if you can't understand numbers in a hand history.

UglyEddie said:

DONT BET THAT MUCH, MUCH TOO BIG, NO DRAWS TO WORRY(24, 46 WOULDNT OF CALLED) SHOULD BET AROUND 125-175 THERE
You're right, I need to get more in the habit of giving my opponent 4-1 on every call. Thanks for the advice.

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YOU GOT ANOTHER WON RIGHT BTW THE CAPS ARE NOT INTENDING TO "EMPHYSIZE" MY OPINION BUT TO BE ABLE TO DISTINGUISH MY TEXT FOUR ALL THE OTHER BOLDED STUFF
Well, there was a minute chance that 3% of the forum might have listened and thought about what you had to say.Not anymore.Throw your posts in to the muck. They're horrible.

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 04:57 PM

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DontFeedTheEddie said:

Hahaha, I hadn't had a good laugh all day.




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