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#1 doubleatrain

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 09:39 PM

How often and in what situations do you all normally play the weaker aces, specifically in tournaments? I often wonder if I'm missing out on some chip accumulating opportunities by not playing many of them.

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 09:41 PM

missing out on some chip losing for sure, but cheap flops with Ax suited are always nice in NL

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 09:48 PM

in Limit or NoLimit
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Posted 23 March 2005 - 10:06 PM

KDawgCometh said:

in Limit or NoLimit
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#5 doubleatrain

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 10:35 PM

I know cheaply seeing Ax suited can be good with implied odds and what not, but I'm just wondering more about NL tournaments, I suppose late in the tourney when the blinds have gotten higher and there's more pressure to make a move. I'm personally still in the mode of almost always folding weak aces, and just worry that's a little weak in certain situations.

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 02:43 AM

playing any ace king queen or jack with a weak kicker is almost always a bad idea. You will often find yourself outkicked and this is a costly mistake.I ocassionally play Ax agressively when it is folded to me in the sb of a tourney.I'd much rather play 23o than a2o.

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 08:26 AM

Yeah, weak aces in any situation are a good way to get yourself into trouble.That said, I'll usually play Ax suited, expecting that I'm good enough to be able to drop it if I flop the ace and nothing else.

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 09:44 AM

WEAK acesWEAK....fold themAx suited is playable

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 10:01 AM

jayistheman said:

WEAK acesWEAK....fold themAx suited is playable
especially SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTED. actually I only like to play Ax SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTED in late position if at all.
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Posted 24 March 2005 - 10:08 AM

allinbluff35 is the funniest poster on the forum.there, i said it.everyone else should probably stop trying to compete.except ghoti7four, i think hes pretty funny too!

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 10:20 AM

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 10:24 AM

doubleatrain said:

How often and in what situations do you all normally play the weaker aces, specifically in tournaments? I often wonder if I'm missing out on some chip accumulating opportunities by not playing many of them.
In all honesty though I have the same *problem* you do. I truely do hate playing Ax even Ax SOOOOOOTED because I think I am just pissing money down the drain. Now in a tournament setting it's a whole different story. I am trying to play any ace in tournaments and often do raise preflop with it now and the last few tournaments I have played I actually have done better by increasing my aggression factor with them. Buyin to some really cheap tournaments and try it out and see how you do.
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Posted 24 March 2005 - 11:06 AM

the only problem with showing agression with a weak ace, is that when you run into any callers, you are usually dominatedi try to show more agression with suited connectors and hands like 10j

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Posted 24 March 2005 - 11:16 AM

jayistheman said:

the only problem with showing agression with a weak ace, is that when you run into any callers, you are usually dominatedi try to show more agression with suited connectors and hands like 10j
just experimenting with a different approach to see how I do. I have been making it deeper into tournaments since I have been mixing up my play more and raising with Ax but it could just be luck(who knows). But I'll update to see if it works in tournaments.DISCLAIMER: I do not recommend playing that trash in a cash game though, well maybe in late position, or if it's cheaper, or if there are a lot of limpers, DAMNIT FIND YOUR STYLE AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO PLAY THEM.
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Posted 24 March 2005 - 11:20 AM

Sorry to kinda crap on this thread, but I'm inclined to tell a story. This is my first real experience with someone saying "but it was suited."I was playing a micro-limit NL game on Stars (yes, I'm worthless. Fine.) I think I had QQ or KK or something similar. I bet pretty high for the table so far. The board comes rainbow, one diamond (this becomes significant. I bet the pot, caller. Another diamond. I bet the pot, caller. Another diamond. I figure there is no way he was chasing the flush the way the table was and the way I had been betting. I bet .. probably the pot again, he calls. Sure enough A4s. I type "Wow, nh, I am surprised you called my raises with that." I wasn't trying to be a jerk, it's just not necessary. However, someone else does that for me, making fun of him. He goes "but it was suited."We proceeded to laugh. I stayed at that table for a long time and busted that guy, it was fun. Running joke at the table was "but it was soooooooooted!"




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