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#1 KDawgCometh

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 06:02 PM

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is UTG with [J :spade: ], [A :spade: ]. Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls.Flop: (15 SB) [5 :club: ], [6 :spade: ], [5 :spade: ] (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO bets, CO calls, SB calls.Turn: (14 BB) [6 :diamond: ] (3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB folds, Hero calls.River: (16 BB) [K :diamond: ] (2 players)Hero checks, CO checks.Final Pot: 16 BBreads: CO was solid and unimaginative SB was a dolt BB also seemed solid but passivewhich leads me to a couple of questions. Was raising utg with AJ suited too aggressive and did I have enough pot equity to cap the flop, and with my reads was I correct on each street
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Posted 23 March 2005 - 06:40 PM

I like it.It's a scary board, but given the action preflop/flop i'm assuming he's hot AA-QQ.Capping looks like +EV to me. 33.3333% of the money is yours, 35% of the time you win. It's not a big edge, but an A may win it for you.
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Posted 23 March 2005 - 06:48 PM

Yeah. Here is my though process on capping this here. His range of hands could very well be AK, AA, KK, AQs, QQ, JJ, or 1010 even( I think he'd threebet PF and threebet my CR with an overpair on this flop). So against AA I need the flush. KK, QQ, JJ I need the Ace. AK I need the jack and hope a K doesn't fall. Same goes for AQ with obviously hoping the Q doesn't fall. Against 1010 I need either the Jack or the A. So given the range of hands I felt the Ace was good for one out(maybe even a .5 out here) and teh Jack would be good for 1 out. So I figured with 11 or 10.5 outs This might work. I still dunno, I want to heqar from as many as possbile. The results don't matter as its obvious I didn't hit the flush which was my main draw
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Posted 23 March 2005 - 09:24 PM

Your thinking is not flawed.nice hand.
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Posted 23 March 2005 - 09:35 PM

I like the check-raise here, especially given the results.But maybe you could help with this...Is the check raise on this flop more +EV than leading out on it.My first instinct here was to lead the flop. Why is this poor?Was the point of the C/R to get the SB and BB in for one bet from the CO instead of having to call 2 cold from your bet then his raise (I am assuming he would raise if you lead). Anyway I like the move on the flop, I guess it just wasn't obvious to me. Any further explanation you could give here would probably be of great benefit to me, seeing as how I think I misplay overcards with flush draws in big pots.

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 09:44 PM

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I like the check-raise here, especially given the results.But maybe you could help with this...Is the check raise on this flop more +EV than leading out on it.My first instinct here was to lead the flop. Why is this poor?Was the point of the C/R to get the SB and BB in for one bet from the CO instead of having to call 2 cold from your bet then his raise (I am assuming he would raise if you lead). Anyway I like the move on the flop, I guess it just wasn't obvious to me. Any further explanation you could give here would probably be of great benefit to me, seeing as how I think I misplay overcards with flush draws in big pots.
bingo. The goal was to maximize the entire value of this hand. I wanted to play for a real big pot here and I wasn't afraid to do it. At 2/4 a 16 BB pot is a whopper of one. There is a raging debate over this hand over at 2+2 and they really break it down well. my second post goes through my logic on this hand. If there are any more questions don't be afraid to ask, as we all learn from a good roundtable
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