RhinestoneCowboy 2 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Poker StarsNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$15 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $203.50CO: $103.55Button: $241.55SB: $93.40Hero: $99Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 3 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.Flop: ($2, 2 players)SB checks, Hero checks.Turn: ($2, 2 players)SB checks, Hero checks.River: ($2, 2 players)SB bets $2, Hero raises to $10, SB raises to $25, BB??. Link to post Share on other sites
aim786 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Do you really think he has JT here? Link to post Share on other sites
Money022 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Call. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 are you asking if you call or push?i just call here. He may have the nut str8 but he may be as weak as 2pair.Since there was no betting to define any type of hand, no reason to get crazy with it.just call. Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I think you're leaving a lot of money on the table if you just call. I think this is much more frequently two pair than a straight and even if it's the straight, only one of the three straight possibilities beats you. Link to post Share on other sites
Spence 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Call or raise to $45-50 and fold to push. Or make a crying call, it's up to you.I like the call more in that situation though. Link to post Share on other sites
RhinestoneCowboy 2 Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 I was the SB in the hand with J10o. The "Hero" called my raise and I was left wondering if I could've gotten more from him. The pot was very small to begin with, and he made a substantial raise on my pot sized bet. It was impossible to put him on the 2nd nuts, so I didn't think a push would work.Given the wide range the "Hero" could hold here, was raising to 25 the correct amount?For the record, I probobly go broke on that hand. I was hoping that the average .5/1 would do the same to double me up.. Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I was the SB in the hand with J10o. The "Hero" called my raise and I was left wondering if I could've gotten more from him. The pot was very small to begin with, and he made a substantial raise on my pot sized bet. It was impossible to put him on the 2nd nuts, so I didn't think a push would work.Given the wide range the "Hero" could hold here, was raising to 25 the correct amount?For the record, I probobly go broke on that hand. I was hoping that the average .5/1 would do the same to double me up.. Isn't that just a standard reraising amount. 2.5x's the bet? You basically announced you have a big hand, so you'd like to get two pair hands to still be enticed to call.You probably should. I think he leaves a ton of money in the pot by not reraising. lastly, bet the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
RhinestoneCowboy 2 Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 Bet the flop?I've got a lot to learn about this game. I don't go after a lot of 2bb pots with nothing. When it is a battle of the blinds I am usually very weak and fold anything less that TP as to not get involved in a big pot with a marginal hand and no information on the opponents holdings...Should I have popped it to 40 to try to make it look more like a bluff? Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Bet the flop?I've got a lot to learn about this game. I don't go after a lot of 2bb pots with nothing. When it is a battle of the blinds I am usually very weak and fold anything less that TP as to not get involved in a big pot with a marginal hand and no information on the opponents holdings...I agree with you that I rarely call w/ second pair in a battle of the blinds cause I don't like getting involved, but it's easy not to get involved when you have absolutely nothing. Should I have popped it to 40 to try to make it look more like a bluff?Betting a lot no longer looks like a bluff to anyone. It looks like a desperation value bet from a huge hand. Link to post Share on other sites
RhinestoneCowboy 2 Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 Raise to 25, Raise to 40, Push? Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Listen to Scott.And, just call. J10 beats you. People that are advocating raising, because "there's a lot of money left on the table if you call"...If we re-raise, are we getting called with 2 pair often enough that it makes the move +Ev against a chop/loss to J10? Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Raise to 25, Raise to 40, Push?Push probably gets a fold from the second nuts here. Again, don't get hung up on the amount $25 is the right bet, possibly 30. Anything more, and people start folding big hands. If this player is capable of just calling your raise, he is capable of folding two pair to a bigger raise. Link to post Share on other sites
Peak01 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I'm just calling here. I agree with Scott and bet here on the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
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