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[cdxx]

how about this hand:four players. dealt A:diamond: K:diamond: UTG. Raise to $1. SB calls. flop 6:heart: A:heart: K:club: . SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB raises to $7.what do you do?a semi-bluf with two hearts could make sense here, right? but it better be strong like Q:heart: J:heart:, so it gives you nut straight and second nut flush. or K:heart: Q:heart:. other hands to think about? 66? A:club: 6:club:?

[Absolute]

Most players raise 6-6 in NL.There needs to be more information.Who acted when?Chip stacks?etc...Simply not enough info to give a strong response..Anyway, I would re-raise the pot at least

[cdxx]

Absolute said:

Most players raise 6-6 in NL.There needs to be more information.Who acted when?Chip stacks?etc...Simply not enough info to give a strong response..Anyway, I would re-raise the pot at least

saw flop|[b]saw showdown[b]SB ($19.6)BB ($52.13)[b]Hero ($21.85)Button ($15.32)noone else saw the flop

[Absolute]

in that case, push

[rollito]

I'd reraise because the sb prob would have reraised preflop with 6's and could be playing something like a10 or most likley is thinking you are betting the flop no matter what hits since you led out preflop and therefore are on a steal so i would have to reraise, thinking my hand was still good.....now if he comes back over the top then your in a tough spot but at this point i don't htink you have enough to tell you your beat.....even with his raise i still put him on a draw like you said or even a steal....4 handed your hand is really stong and it would take a lot to make me lay it down....a call and a heart on the turn could change that though

[jayistheman]

where do you guys play that 66 is raising huge pre flop?

[rollito]

not raising huge but in a four handed game 66 is a hand lots of people woudl raise with

[Absolute]

Absolutely. I never said raising huge.But four handed, 6-6 is certainly a raising hand.Why don't you think so?

[jayistheman]

ah... didnt realize 4 handed... i just heard all of this talk of reraising.... im not a fan of that play.even shorthanded, i try not to get overcommited to low pairs... especially in such dreadful position.i multitable shorthanded alot (6 max tables.. but they usually break to 4handed) and i tend to try to hit the flop cheaply out of the blinds... in position, a decent raise is acceptable, as a continuation bet will often do the trick on a raggedy flop

[Absolute]

I said he should re-raise..because he had AKlol

[cdxx]

jayistheman said:

where do you guys play that 66 is raising huge pre flop?

well, 4-handed, any pair is pretty much good. since I am UTG, i could be raising with KT and buying the button. if i was in SB with 6-6 i'd raise to $2 and bet $2 on A-K-x flop. of course, if trips hit, then a check-raise is a little too aggressive. you'd want to trap the opponent for at least 2 pot bets. so check-call, and check-raise on the turn.i wish some short-handed wizard would rip me a new one, telling me on how many levels NL just not my game. (btw, my bankroll is now the required 300+ BB, so i am not going back to .10/.25 limit)sorry about somewhat boring post (no info about players, etc.)

[jayistheman]

Absolute said:

I said he should re-raise..because he had AKlol

lol.. im just gonna slip back into the darkness here

[Absolute]

good ideayou are missing out on the At Work Crewyou probably missed 82 posts reading this thread silly

[jayistheman]

cdxx said:

jayistheman said:

where do you guys play that 66 is raising huge pre flop?

well, 4-handed, any pair is pretty much good. since I am UTG, i could be raising with KT and buying the button. if i was in SB with 6-6 i'd raise to $2 and bet $2 on A-K-x flop. of course, if trips hit, then a check-raise is a little too aggressive. you'd want to trap the opponent for at least 2 pot bets. so check-call, and check-raise on the turn.i wish some short-handed wizard would rip me a new one, telling me on how many levels NL just not my game. (btw, my bankroll is now the required 300+ BB, so i am not going back to .10/.25 limit)sorry about somewhat boring post (no info about players, etc.)

i see what you're saying... but i'm more apt to smooth call pre flop... in that case, you can check raise on a raggedy flop if you think your hand is best... if you do hit, you can lead out... alot of the time he will come over the top on the flop. i use this play alot..

[rollito]

jayistheman said:

cdxx said:

jayistheman said:

where do you guys play that 66 is raising huge pre flop?

well, 4-handed, any pair is pretty much good. since I am UTG, i could be raising with KT and buying the button. if i was in SB with 6-6 i'd raise to $2 and bet $2 on A-K-x flop. of course, if trips hit, then a check-raise is a little too aggressive. you'd want to trap the opponent for at least 2 pot bets. so check-call, and check-raise on the turn.i wish some short-handed wizard would rip me a new one, telling me on how many levels NL just not my game. (btw, my bankroll is now the required 300+ BB, so i am not going back to .10/.25 limit)sorry about somewhat boring post (no info about players, etc.)

i see what you're saying... but i'm more apt to smooth call pre flop... in that case, you can check raise on a raggedy flop if you think your hand is best... if you do hit, you can lead out... alot of the time he will come over the top on the flop. i use this play alot..

For me this play seems to get me into trouble sometimes...by just smooth calling preflop you don't really know where your at.....in a full game this is a good strategy but in game that is only 4 handed the initial raiser could be raising with anything and a reraise could win you the pot right there.....but will also let you know where you are at....a raggedy flop could cost you a big pot to an overpair....whereas a preflop reraise only costs you one bet, and your opponent has to have at least a decent hand to even call a reraise preflop......just how i like to play that hand short handed

[cdxx]

if anyone is still interested out there, i raised the guy and 2 seconds later we were all in. turn is another 6, river is a blank.guy shows KK for a full house. he smooth called preflop out of position and it worked out for him. i just wanted to know if pushing was still the right thing to do and it seems it was.oh yeah, and how do i go about getting a free cheesesteak? 8)

[rollito]

no way you can put him on that hand.....i think four handed that is just a hand you have to go broke on....tough break but not much you could do

[Smasharoo]

Most players raise 6-6 in NLFrom the SB heads up with an UTG raise?Most players suck then.

[cdxx]

Smasharoo said:

Most players raise 6-6 in NLFrom the SB heads up with an UTG raise?Most players suck then.

what about calling KK?

[jayistheman]

i dont like smooth calling pre flop... it provides no informationits a ballsy play