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#1 cfinnn

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 11:48 AM

I'm sorry, but I laughed my *** off when I read this. But, only because the same thing happened to me. I was producing a documentary in a prison. Myself and my producing partner went in to visit a few prisoners and were similarly subjected to this scan. They found a trace of some kind of illegal drug (they didn't tell me which one) on my keys and then asked me a number of questions about it. It freaked me out too. But later we were told that approximately 70% of all scans come up positive for some kind of drug or another (not sure the exact stat on what percentage of those are illegal ones). It's just like you said, it could have been from money you received, or a door handle, that bowl of mixed nuts at the bar, something that you touched before handling your wallet. There are more ways than I can count that this might have happened.Here is some information and a few similar accounts from an article written by the New York Civil Liberties Union, who are trying to get the system to stop relying on these scans for determining visitation rights in prisons:"If a positive reading results, a second scan is to be performed on the same area that elicited the positive result. If the second test is positive, then DOCS bars the visitor from visitation for two consecutive days. No further investigation is conducted into whether the individual actually possesses illegal drugs, even though the machine can only detect contact with traces of chemicals that may or may not have come from controlled substances.One woman whose job requires her to handle lots of cash was devastated when she was informed that she tested positive for cocaine and heroin. She asked to be searched, but the officers told her that they could not do so. The next time she went to visit her husband in prison one of the correctional officers jokingly asked her, “What’s on your hands today?” Then, he told her that on the same day she was scanned, he asked the ion scan team to test him; he, too, tested positive for cocaine and heroin. He reasoned that he had touched people and money all day.After working all day, a man from New Jersey drove eight hours to see a childhood friend who had lost both of his parents and was having a difficult time in prison. After he was tested with the ion scanner and the results were positive for cocaine, he insisted that he does not use drugs and offered to be searched. He noticed that the machine was not cleaned after prior use and that the two individuals tested before him also tested positive for cocaine. Having gone to the prison with another friend who was not scanned, he waited six hours before driving all the way home.Another woman, who was taking codeine-based painkillers prescribed by her doctor for back treatment, tested positive for heroin with the ion scanner. Alarmed by the results, as she has never even seen heroin let alone used or possessed any illegal narcotics, she asked to be searched, but at no avail. She was denied visitation for two days. Determined to visit her loved one even at the expense of her own health, after the incident she stopped taking her medication."The full article is here: http://www.nyclu.org...ltr_032404.html It goes on to explain how the scanners are faulty because they cannot prove either drug use or possession.Also, having miniscule traces of an illegal drug present on your clothing or possessions is not illegal. They use the scan in order to help them determine who to question. They know that most people who come up positive have done nothing wrong, and even if they did they would have no legal groung to stand on. The most they could do is detain you and question you some more while trying to find some real evidence of wrongdoing. The article continues:"...innocent, inadvertent contact with drugs is frequent and widely acknowledged. For example, numerous scientific studies have shown that drug residue is commonly found on currency. In particular, cocaine attaches to bills, which in turn contaminates other materials with which it comes in contact. Third, the machines themselves can become contaminated from residues left in the equipment from prior scans. Indeed, extremely small amounts yield a positive signal."What they are really looking for with the scan is bomb-making materials. If that shows up on the scan, then I might be worried. But that wouldn't happen by accident.So, relax next time at the airport. Your reaction is really all they're looking for. Obviously they felt you had nothing to hide.

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 11:56 AM

travels with loads of cashtested for trace amounts of heroinsleeps till 2 in the afternoon most daysfantasies about Angelia Joelineprone to random posts of sicko poetryIf it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.....
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Posted 16 September 2006 - 12:06 PM

i did my senior project (during my senior year in high school) at a bank and i learned some fun/weird facts-%73 of 1 dollar bills have traces of cocaine on them
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Posted 16 September 2006 - 03:14 PM

Remember Daniel, heroin is the drug and heroine is a female super hero/
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Posted 16 September 2006 - 04:07 PM

View Postgilbertology, on Saturday, September 16th, 2006, 3:14 PM, said:

Remember Daniel, heroin is the drug and heroine is a female super hero/
Perhaps he confused the drug with Angelina Jolie....
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Posted 16 September 2006 - 04:18 PM

View Postgruven, on Saturday, September 16th, 2006, 8:07 PM, said:

Perhaps he confused the drug with Angelina Jolie....
She's my kind of drug ;)The other way you could be testing positive in a drug test is if you eat bagels with poppy seeds. It triggers the same results if they do a urine test or blood test as heroin. Comes from the same plant and all.

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 05:00 PM

is heroin spelled heroine in canada?

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 05:34 PM

View PostCalendyr, on Saturday, September 16th, 2006, 5:18 PM, said:

She's my kind of drug ;)The other way you could be testing positive in a drug test is if you eat bagels with poppy seeds. It triggers the same results if they do a urine test or blood test as heroin. Comes from the same plant and all.
epidsode in seinfeld when elaine tested positive for opium because she had chicken with poppy seeds on them
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Posted 16 September 2006 - 09:48 PM

View Postkeith crime, on Saturday, September 16th, 2006, 9:00 PM, said:

is heroin spelled heroine in canada?
If he is french it is. It's heroine in french.

View Postshowstopper24, on Saturday, September 16th, 2006, 9:34 PM, said:

epidsode in seinfeld when elaine tested positive for opium because she had chicken with poppy seeds on them
I don't watch Seinfeld but this was tested by Mythbusters and it's true. The test was still reacting days after they ate 1 bagel. Not sure what the half-life of that stuff is but it will stay in your body for a few days.

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 07:05 AM

yea it was a funny episode so elaine needed a urine sample from jerrys mom who was 76 or something like that...the sample came back with no traces of opium but the doc said she is as healthy as a 76 year old woman
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Posted 17 September 2006 - 07:18 AM

I was having an easier time believing that Angelina Jolie was hitting on Daniel than Daniel being stopped in the airport for traces of Herion on his belongings.
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Posted 17 September 2006 - 07:11 PM

i was fooled by dn up to the point where he said she said "brad says he is open to new relationships, i am fine with it too".nice play dn.

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 10:03 AM

daniel if you ever have thie problem again just call me up and i will come over and lick all the herion off of your bags this way we all win.
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 10:21 AM

maybe it's because i'm stoned off my ***, but that story was hilarious!
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 12:20 PM

View Postcheckymcfold, on Tuesday, September 19th, 2006, 11:21 AM, said:

maybe it's because i'm stoned off my ***, but that story was hilarious!
Just so that you know Checky, the new protoge is merely a front for what you'll really be used for...muleing Afghanistans finest powder to Daniels secret bathroom stash. :club:



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Posted 19 September 2006 - 12:25 PM

View Postantistuff, on Tuesday, September 19th, 2006, 10:03 AM, said:

daniel if you ever have thie problem again just call me up and i will come over and lick all the herion off of your bags this way we all win.
:D Only if you bring Angelina :club:
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