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#1 KDawgCometh

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 02:28 PM

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is UTG+1 with [9 :club: ], [9 :spade: ]. CO posts a blind of $2. 1 fold, BB checks.Flop: (5.50 SB) [7 :spade: ], [T :heart: ], [6 :club: ] (5 players)BB bets, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, CO folds, BB calls.Turn: (5.75 BB) [9 :heart: ] (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets, Hero calls, MP1 calls.River: (11.75 BB) [3 :club: ] (3 players)BB bets, Hero calls, MP1 folds.Final Pot: 13.75 BBBB is tight passive, not sure if he is a rock or just tight passive as this was the 25th hand at the table, but he had only played one hand not in a blind so far and hasn't seen a turn yet. I had been very aggressive(as usual) so I felt he might either be open ended or have a gutshot with an overcard. Did I play this correct. Needless to say I didn't like hitting my set as I really though it completed a straight for someone
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Posted 22 March 2005 - 02:43 PM

I think I'd fold to the first flop bet, I just don't like being in a situation where I might already be behind, be drawing to a tie (straight), or drawing to a set that gives someone else a straight.

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 02:43 PM

I would have played it exactly the same, and lost to the 8 on the river.

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 02:46 PM

Swift_Psycho said:

I think I'd fold to the first flop bet, I just don't like being in a situation where I might already be behind, be drawing to a tie (straight), or drawing to a set that gives someone else a straight.
yes, but I;m ahead more often than not here and have position
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Posted 22 March 2005 - 02:49 PM

i woulda raised preflop.....but thats just me

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 02:54 PM

KDawgCometh said:

Swift_Psycho said:

I think I'd fold to the first flop bet, I just don't like being in a situation where I might already be behind, be drawing to a tie (straight), or drawing to a set that gives someone else a straight.
yes, but I;m ahead more often than not here and have position
I dunno, you only have position on one of your four opponents and I just think that the pots you could potentially lose are larger than the ones you might win if you are right. Besides, even if you are ahead now, you could be outdrawn.

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 03:32 PM

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i woulda raised preflop.....but thats just me
did you see what my position was PF
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Posted 22 March 2005 - 06:22 PM

KDawgCometh said:

XXEddie said:

i woulda raised preflop.....but thats just me
did you see what my position was PF
what does anyone think of raising preflop (if nothing else, to drive out one or two hands out), and either raising or check-raising the flop (no longer to drive anyone out, but seek information)? disclaimer: i may be way off here, limit is not where i get most results and i usually raise for information rather than EV. i also would have shut it down and folded if i saw sufficient resistance. even on the turn.

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 06:41 PM

KDawgCometh said:

XXEddie said:

i woulda raised preflop.....but thats just me
did you see what my position was PF
o....you were in EPwell in that case....raise......well I raise

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 12:54 AM

I dont think he would bet the flop with a 8 here, he would prolly wanted to c the turn/river for free rather then betting. I think he has a Jack so I would prolly raise your set

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 04:16 AM

I don't see what you did wrong here KDawg.Looks fine to meNote: He is UTG+1 pre-flop to all those who said raise.I do think it is something to consider though KDawg, seeing how it is 8-handed. 10 handed in this position is a pretty easy call.I could understand an argument for a raise here, I just haven't heard a good one yet.And people need to convince me of things because I don't know anything.

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 07:14 AM

I posted this hand on 2+2 also and those who said raise there didn't give me any decent argument other than "raise it", and one respnse said to them, I'd love to play you guys, so I'm still going with the limp there as I really don't want to be out of position with nines and several overcards flop
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Posted 23 March 2005 - 09:10 AM

Agreed KDawg, I was just fishing for a decent argument myself.As I said, I think you played it fine.

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 09:17 AM

yeah, the key for me was now that i hit my set, which I didn't want to hit, what should I have done. I feel that my PF and flop play is fine, its the last two streets that I'm thinking about in specific
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