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#1 mkeller3086

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 01:44 PM

party 100 nl 6 max

Hero $150
Button $110

Hero dealt J icon_suit_diamond.gif7 icon_suit_diamond.gif in the CO

Hero opens for $3.5, Button calls

Flop (2 players, $7)

8 icon_suit_club.gif 9 icon_suit_club.gif 10 icon_suit_diamond.gif

Hero bets 2, Button raises to 106 (all in), Hero?


I got a buddy that always wants me to make a weak lead when I flop big. "It gets raised everytime". I sure got raised this time....

edit: that was number 500 for me, an accomplishment for me, a routine week for a lot of you. Only took me about 20 months to get it done.
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#2 MasterLJ

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 02:00 PM

What's the point of the post?
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#3 mkeller3086

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 02:29 PM

QUOTE (MasterLJ @ Wednesday, September 6th, 2006, 2:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What's the point of the post?

hmm, thought that might be coming

just checking, i didn't think the hand was as trivial as you thought it was when i first posted it.
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Posted 06 September 2006 - 02:36 PM

If he outdrew or outdraws me, then congratulations to him, but I'm calling here.
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Posted 06 September 2006 - 02:41 PM

QUOTE (mkeller3086 @ Wednesday, September 6th, 2006, 3:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hmm, thought that might be coming

just checking, i didn't think the hand was as trivial as you thought it was when i first posted it.


No seriously, I misread the "Hero?" part and didn't think there was any question.

I don't think this is tough, this is a pretty straightforward call. Not only are you ahead probably 75-80% of the time, you have 12% at the chop if he has the stone cold nuts.

I go broke here every time.
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Posted 06 September 2006 - 04:16 PM

He could be playing smash strat.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 04:35 PM

QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Wednesday, September 6th, 2006, 8:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He could be playing smash strat.


If that's the case you call unless your initials are DN.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 04:52 PM

QUOTE (mkeller3086 @ Wednesday, September 6th, 2006, 5:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
party 100 nl 6 max

Hero $150
Button $110

Hero dealt J icon_suit_diamond.gif7 icon_suit_diamond.gif in the CO

Hero opens for $3.5, Button calls

Flop (2 players, $7)

8 icon_suit_club.gif 9 icon_suit_club.gif 10 icon_suit_diamond.gif

Hero bets 2, Button raises to 106 (all in), Hero?
I got a buddy that always wants me to make a weak lead when I flop big. "It gets raised everytime". I sure got raised this time....

edit: that was number 500 for me, an accomplishment for me, a routine week for a lot of you. Only took me about 20 months to get it done.

Hands he might do this with:

67: crushed
KK: crushed
2-pair: 4:1
set: 3:2
flush draw: 2:1
sf draw: 3:2
QQ: 4:1
Jc 7c: 1:2
JQ: 1:9

I think we have to feel we're ahead a lot more than half the time to call, but I feel comfortable saying that. Call.


QUOTE (semaj550 @ Wednesday, September 6th, 2006, 8:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If that's the case you call unless your initials are DN.

OK, I fold then I guess.
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#9 semaj550

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 05:12 PM

haha...what a coincidence. It's not so much the initials as our host's unfortunate propensity to flop a straight and lose to a boat or quads.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 06:14 PM

Weak leading is dumb here.
There are so many draws and peices of the flop that hit to call, you have to be betting at least 3/4 the pot here. Weak leads aren't "always" raised or even raised that much more often than psb's.

And super easy call of the push...
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Posted 07 September 2006 - 07:07 AM

smells like a set to me. Call and lose, then throw laptop.....repeat.

#12 mkeller3086

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Posted 07 September 2006 - 08:23 AM

Button shows A icon_suit_club.gif 5 icon_suit_club.gif for the flush draw.........
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Posted 07 September 2006 - 11:45 AM

QUOTE (mkeller3086 @ Thursday, September 7th, 2006, 8:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Button shows A icon_suit_club.gif 5 icon_suit_club.gif for the flush draw.........


.......and hits?

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Posted 07 September 2006 - 12:39 PM

easycall.

if you don't call an all-in on this flop then just fold J7s pf.

#15 mkeller3086

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Posted 07 September 2006 - 02:04 PM

QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Thursday, September 7th, 2006, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
.......and hits?


nope, i got "lucky" and won this pot.
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