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#1 Absolute

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 02:28 AM

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is CO with Kc, Jd. 1 fold.Flop: (5.50 SB) 5d, Kd, Qs (2 players)UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.Turn: (5.75 BB) 3d (2 players)UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.River: (7.75 BB) Tc (2 players)UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 9.75 BBThe only reason I call this PF raise is because UTG+1 was a real fish. Raising betting calling with any two cards.Not kidding.But besides the PF error, any thoughts?

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 02:30 AM

Are you saying he was a maniac? Like, raising T7o and betting it to the river? Capping on the flop with 8-high?Or was he just bad?
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Posted 22 March 2005 - 02:32 AM

just bada little bit of a maniacbut more i would say he had a "wide variety" of PF raising hands.is KJo ever playable to two cold?

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 02:34 AM

Absolute said:

just bada little bit of a maniacbut more i would say he had a "wide variety" of PF raising hands.is KJo ever playable to two cold?
Normally it wouldn't be...and i'm actually not convinced it is against a loose raiser. Post flop is perfect, by the way.I dunno, most of the time I 3-bet a loose raiser with anything i'm going to play. I'll isolate with ATs and AJo....I wonder how KJ does....im going to have to get back to you. I'm not sure if a fold, call, or raise is best preflop...what other options do we have?
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Posted 22 March 2005 - 02:39 AM

Whats your rational behind a KJo raise?

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 02:43 AM

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Whats your rational behind a KJo raise?
To isolate. You know he is a loose raiser and KJ probably does well against the *wide* variety of hands he's raising...but it does best when you get him heads up. So, 3-bet is LAG ass will knock out the blinds and get you heads up with a superior hand. Same reason you would 3-bet 99, 88, and 77.
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Posted 22 March 2005 - 06:03 AM

is KJo ever playable to two cold?No.First, there are other people left to act and being in for three-bets against a tight-agressive player here sucks like a black hole.Second, the idea is to punish maniacs by isolating them when you have good hands that play well heads up, that could withstand a later position three-bet, 88 let's say, not to be in there with marginal hands because you think they're hand might be even more marginal.If someone was going all in everytime on a NL table and you were in the same relative position would you call with KJo?I hope not.

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 07:35 AM

i hate it when people say things that make perfect sensei try not to play KJo in NLever




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