TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 I am currently averaging over 2BB/100 hands at the 2-4 limit level, 4 tables and I am getting ready to jump to 3-6. Can't I still expect to make nearly 2BB per 100 hands? And what about the 5-10 level? 1.5BB?? Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 I am currently averaging over 2BB/100 hands at the 2-4 limit level, 4 tables and I am getting ready to jump to 3-6. Can't I still expect to make nearly 2BB per 100 hands? And what about the 5-10 level? 1.5BB??2BB/100 is crushing.First, what's the sample size for 2/4? The fact that you are 4 tabling is impressive as people's rate generally declines while multitabling.The honest answer is that no one can tell you what to expect at 3/6. I don't think expecting to make the same winrate is reasonable when hopping up stakes, at least in the short run. However, I'd be very surprised if you became a losing 3/6 player given your 2/4 stats (assuming you have an ample sample size 25k+ bare minimum).Projecting your win-rate for 2 stakes higher isn't worth the time to think about since it's completely a different game. If you can beat 3/6 for 1.5+ BB/100 then I think you'll do well in 5/10.But again, you're just going to have to see what happens. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 6, 2006 Author Share Posted September 6, 2006 2BB/100 is crushing.First, what's the sample size for 2/4? The fact that you are 4 tabling is impressive as people's rate generally declines while multitabling.The honest answer is that no one can tell you what to expect at 3/6. I don't think expecting to make the same winrate is reasonable when hopping up stakes, at least in the short run. However, I'd be very surprised if you became a losing 3/6 player given your 2/4 stats (assuming you have an ample sample size 25k+ bare minimum).Projecting your win-rate for 2 stakes higher isn't worth the time to think about since it's completely a different game. If you can beat 3/6 for 1.5+ BB/100 then I think you'll do well in 5/10.But again, you're just going to have to see what happens.Well thank you for your advice/info. Right now my sample isn't too big, it is nearing 17K hands. But I also played in the casinos before I had DSL and I was crushing those low limit games for around 4-6BB per hour. So I am doing well so far. Anyone else have any info? Yours was very helpful, thanks alot. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Your winrate wont be precise enough over 15k or so hands to notice the difference to any definitive degree.I did better at 3/6 than 2/4 on party, but slightly worse at 3/6 than 2/4 on absolute. I had about 20k hands at each on party, and about 40k hands at each on absolute.2.7 and 2.4 respectively for party1.8 and 2.2 respectively for absolute Link to post Share on other sites
TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 6, 2006 Author Share Posted September 6, 2006 2.7 and 2.4 respectively for party1.8 and 2.2 respectively for absoluteThat is the good news I like to here sir. But over the course of how many hands? 25K+? And what limits are you playing now, if you don't mind me asking. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I had about 20k hands at each on party, and about 40k hands at each on absolute. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Abba, you're a monster. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 And what limits are you playing now, if you don't mind me asking. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 2/4 - 5/10.Occasionaly shot at 10/20.- Abbacadabra. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 2/4 - 5/10.Occasionaly shot at 10/20.- Abbacadabra.Good to know, sounds like me! I haven't played the 10-20 online yet, But I have played 8-16 and the 9-18 at the Commerce.ALSO, would it be more prof. to play 3 tables and pay a little more attention/take better notes? Or play the 4 with a little less concentration? I always wondered that. I am fairly good at multi-tasking, by the way. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Good to know, sounds like me! I haven't played the 10-20 online yet, But I have played 8-16 and the 9-18 at the Commerce.ALSO, would it be more prof. to play 3 tables and pay a little more attention/take better notes? Or play the 4 with a little less concentration? I always wondered that. I am fairly good at multi-tasking, by the way.only when you are getting bored with 4 IMO Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 It's actually almost all at 2/4 and 3/6.I have 4k hands total at 5/10 and less than 100 hands at 10/20.The quote, "I had about 20k hands at each on party, and about 40k hands at each on absolute." means 20k hands at both 2/4 and 3/6 on party, and about 40k hands at 2/4 and 3/6 on absolute.So about 120k hands total.I play 4 tables because i like being able to browse the internet, post on message boards and chat while i play. Any less than 4 is boring. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I play 4 tables because i like being able to browse the internet, post on message boards and chat while i play. Any less than 4 is boring.QFT. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 It's actually almost all at 2/4 and 3/6.I have 4k hands total at 5/10 and less than 100 hands at 10/20.The quote, "I had about 20k hands at each on party, and about 40k hands at each on absolute." means 20k hands at both 2/4 and 3/6 on party, and about 40k hands at 2/4 and 3/6 on absolute.So about 120k hands total.I play 4 tables because i like being able to browse the internet, post on message boards and chat while i play. Any less than 4 is boring.So then I take you are doing VERY well because I am headed down the same path, and just running quick numbers you can make a ton of money playing cash games at the 3-6 level. Infact, making only 1.6BB/100 at the 3-6 level, playing 4 tables each seeing 75 hands an hour would be 300 hands an hour. So...1.6 * 6= $9.6per 100 hands. So 9.6 * 3 =$28.80/hr. Working full time would amount to...$59,904 annually, or $4992 monthly. And that is at 3-6 level. Nice huh? I'm gonna be rich! =) (And no, I'm not going to be staying at the 3-6 level all my life, and yes I will be playing MTT's. I will have a 5K monthly BR, why not!? Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 $26/hour isnt really accurate.I clear about $25/hour in bonus+rakeback...and my winrate is slightly higher than 1.6.So it's closer to $60/hour. Im up about $20,000 this summer. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 $26/hour isnt really accurate.I clear about $25/hour in bonus+rakeback...and my winrate is slightly higher than 1.6.So it's closer to $60/hour. Im up about $20,000 this summer.Well geeze, maybe I need to start plaing with Rake Back again. I will be playing 2,000+ a day at 2-4 level?And what about the bonuses? From FT? Or other sites? Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I play on absolute. The bonus is virtually unlimited, and it clears concurrently with rakeback and player points. It equals slightly more than 100% rakeback. Plus i get free tournament entries (one 100k guaranteed a month worth $200 and a few smaller ones worth $20 a piece). You cant get rakeback there if you have an existing pay account, but otherwise, feel free to sign up through my signature link.It's not ideal for 2/4. For whatever reason, 1/2 and 3/6 are both far more active than 2/4. WPEX is another good option with slightly more active tables i think. You wont need any special sign up ****. It's 100% rakeback paid weekly. Slightly worse software... and it has a 3 table max. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 WPEX is another good option with slightly more active tables i think. You wont need any special sign up ****. It's 100% rakeback paid weekly. Slightly worse software... and it has a 3 table max.WPEX has more tables than ABSOLUTE?!For real? There's like 800 players on there at peak times... Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 They have more 2/4FR.And more low stakes hold em tables in general.Absolute has more people online, but apparently theyre not playing small stakes limit. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 They have more 2/4FR.And more low stakes hold em tables in general.Absolute has more people online, but apparently theyre not playing small stakes limit.Ah, ok.I just checked WPEX for my $100 NL games... ONE TABLE! LOL.I almost put money on there.How is Absolute for NL? You play any NL over there? I play $100 NL for now, but will be moving to $200 NL in a month or two, probably.EDIT - Full ring, btw. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Right now there are 2 $100FR tables, and about 12 $100SH tables going.Roughly the same for $200FR. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Right now there are 2 $100FR tables, and about 12 $100SH tables going.Roughly the same for $200FR.Yuck.I need to find a better NL site with loose tables and rakeback... is that an oxymoron? Link to post Share on other sites
Bling--Bling--75 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 2-4 is in my Humble Opinon Generally Tighter Than 3-6 & 5-10But ... I Think you Will Destroy The Average 3-6 game Link to post Share on other sites
TheCorporation3 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Author Share Posted September 8, 2006 They have more 2/4FR.And more low stakes hold em tables in general.Absolute has more people online, but apparently theyre not playing small stakes limit.I have come to the realization that rakeback is KICK ***. Im going to be plaing 2000+ hands a day so rakeback will def. help me out on the tough months..LIKE THIS ONE!I guess party isn't the place to be playing full time then. Full Tilt rakeback will give me $1800 a month, or thereabouts. How would you rate FT? And what about WPEX? Vs FT Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I have come to the realization that rakeback is KICK ***. Im going to be plaing 2000+ hands a day so rakeback will def. help me out on the tough months..LIKE THIS ONE!I guess party isn't the place to be playing full time then. Full Tilt rakeback will give me $1800 a month, or thereabouts. How would you rate FT? And what about WPEX? Vs FT http://bonuswhores.comPretty much details every site on the net in terms of softness/availability/etc of games. Pretty much the only site you need for selecting your next poker site.- Zach Link to post Share on other sites
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