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[Comatose_Soul]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converterMP1 (t1640)MP2 (t10237)MP3 (t4806)CO (t3555)Button (t7480)Hero (t10350)BB (t8567)UTG (t9625)UTG+1 (t5285)Preflop: Hero is SB with Ad, 5d. 3 folds, MP2 calls t200, MP3 calls t200, CO calls t200, Button calls t200, Hero completes, BB checks.Flop: (t1200) 2d, Kd, 6h (6 players)Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, Button bets t1000, MP3 calls t2606 (All-In).Turn: (t23236) Ts (3 players, 1 all-in)River: (t23236) Jc (3 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: t23236Main Pot: t15018 (t15018), between MP3, Button and Hero.Pot 2: t8218 (t8218), between Button and Hero. ~125 or so people left out of 665 (40 FPP Round 1 WSOP qualifier) Good place to gamble, or a bad place to gamble?

[looshle]

Bad.

[RISEorFall]

Horrible. for 2 reasons. 1- you drive out everyone else in the pot, who you still want in there if you hit your flush. true you might drive out a bigger ace and give yourself more outs, but I think you're really trying to hit a flush here not a pair of Aces. 2- because of exactly what happened. you get reraised, and now you have to act, and you have nothing. Ace high, yes with a nut flush draw, but only a draw. Unless you think he's trying to steal the pot from postition, and then trying to steal it again after you reraised, it's a horrible play. even worse because there's 2 people in the hand, not just one, and the odds of having both of them beat with just Ace high is really bad. Risking all your chips on a draw when you seemed to have a good size stack is bad.

[Absolute]

its not very good

[Comatose_Soul]

It was a pretty big bone-headed move. Good example of how I get more and more impatient the longer I'm in a tournament. Main thing I would change would be calling the Button's all-in.

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Horrible. for 2 reasons. 1- you drive out everyone else in the pot, who you still want in there if you hit your flush. true you might drive out a bigger ace and give yourself more outs, but I think you're really trying to hit a flush here not a pair of Aces.

I have to disagree with this part. Everyone limp'd, and I'm sitting on Ace high after the flop. Checks around to the button, who raises 1k. Now I don't know if this is a position raise or if he really has anything. I've got a decent draw, but still only Ace high. I like the semi-bluff in this situation, and thats why I would still re-raise (the amount I did, might have been too small, but the button was going to call anything.) Not to mention the fact that his 1k raise is probably going to push out all the limpers anyways (so I'm really not concerned with them at all.)Button had 6 6 MP3 had a King I will 100% agree that calling the Button's all-in was not smart, it was dumb in fact, but I don't see anything wrong with a semi-bluff in this situation.

[RISEorFall]

Comatose_Soul said:

I have to disagree with this part. Everyone limp'd, and I'm sitting on Ace high after the flop. Checks around to the button, who raises 1k. Now I don't know if this is a position raise or if he really has anything. I've got a decent draw, but still only Ace high. I like the semi-bluff in this situation, and thats why I would still re-raise (the amount I did, might have been too small, but the button was going to call anything.) Not to mention the fact that his 1k raise is probably going to push out all the limpers anyways (so I'm really not concerned with them at all.)

Yeah it wasn't as bad of a move as I was making it out to be. I wouldn't have reraised here though, I'd rather call and see what happens on the turn, and what he does. if you hit it you might pick up more money having the guy bluff at you again on the turn than a raise would do here, but the semi-bluff isn't as bad a play as I made it out to be.

[Swift_Psycho]

Raising on the flop was probably a bad play. You open yourself up to a re-raise from the original bettor (if we forget about all the other people in the hand who might re-raise), and you are raising out of position. A semi-bluff would work way better when you are in position on your opponents, because you have the option of taking a free card if they check to you on the turn.