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[brando]

1. You limp in mp (1st in) with pocket 9's...it gets raised behind you then 3 bet.Do you call the two bets or fold, you'll be first to act on the flop.2. Pocket pairs say 22-77 do you fold these in ep? I just found myself limping then it get raised behind me, I call, miss the flop and check fold. They didn't really seem to be worth it.

[Absolute]

1. when you say 1st in you mean 1st to act right? call the 3bet

[Vade]

2. Correct for small pairs.Limp in, and if it's raised back to you callAny time you voluntarily put money into the pot, call one raise.I'd fold the 99 to two raises, because it's very likely to be capped. I don't want to find myself in that situation.

[wrto4556]

it really matters how loose the game is. Sometimes 66 doesn't look so hot UTG.

[brando]

I know if you limp w/ a pair you call the 1 bet if it gets raised, I'm seriously questioning whether it's worth it to even limp in ep, maybe even mp, w/ low pairs. That's more my question, what kind of odds do you need to limp w/ these, or do you need any?1st in, I mean you were the 1st in the pot not necessarily 1st to act

[Swift_Psycho]

brando said:

I know if you limp w/ a pair you call the 1 bet if it gets raised, I'm seriously questioning whether it's worth it to even limp in ep, maybe even mp, w/ low pairs. That's more my question, what kind of odds do you need to limp w/ these, or do you need any?1st in, I mean you were the 1st in the pot not necessarily 1st to act

In a ring game, I personally fold sixes and below UTG and sometimes sevens if I'm feeling particularly tight that day.And for the question about the nines, I fold to the 3-bet. But that might just be me.

[wrto4556]

Swift_Psycho said:

brando said:

I know if you limp w/ a pair you call the 1 bet if it gets raised, I'm seriously questioning whether it's worth it to even limp in ep, maybe even mp, w/ low pairs. That's more my question, what kind of odds do you need to limp w/ these, or do you need any?1st in, I mean you were the 1st in the pot not necessarily 1st to act

In a ring game, I personally fold sixes and below UTG and sometimes sevens if I'm feeling particularly tight that day.And for the question about the nines, I fold to the 3-bet. But that might just be me.

If you're getting correct odds you can call.

[akishore]

1. you can call the two cold (even knowing it's going to be capped) if you have good pot odds or good implied odds. if it's 2 small bets to you in a 14 small bet pot, you don't quite have the correct pot odds to call and hit a set (you need 8-1 for that), but you probably have good implied odds. the more aggressive the game is post-flop, the better your implied odds are.2. if the game is very passive pre-flop, limp with 22 UTG. if the game is aggressive pre-flop, only play raising hands in EP. the idea is that drawing hands lose a lot of EV when they're forced to put in two bets pre-flop instead of two bets, and 22-66 are drawing hands, as are 77-99 in multiway pots. so, if you're UTG with 22 and 50% of hands get raised pre-flop, fold that trash. but if you're in a fish pond where 5% of flops get raised pre-flop (and everytime it's you doing it), limp with 45s. of course, you shouldn't even be playing drawing hands unless the game is loose, so i made the assumption that the game is loose. if the game is tight, don't play 22-66 anywhere, much less 45s.aseem