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#1 109suited

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:07 PM

Absolute Poker 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP with Ts, Th. 1 fold, Hero calls.Flop: (13 SB) Td, 9h, 9c (4 players)SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB calls, Hero calls, CO calls.Turn: (10.50 BB) Kd (4 players)SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls.River: (16.50 BB) 8s (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets, Hero calls, Button calls.Final Pot: 27.50 BBI got destroyed. SB had KK, and the CO had A9. At least I had one of them beat. :/

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:12 PM

What's with the check/call on the flop.Put him on 9-9 pf? lol

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:14 PM

I was looking for overcalls from the SB (who I had no clue was as strong as he was, and the button. Then I got the checkraise I was looking for on the turn...only to have that K beat me.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:20 PM

is this a bad beat post or a question on how you could have played the hand better?if the latter, this was the wrong situation to slowplay. check-raising is fine, but not check-calling.you also weren't in position to look for overcalls, which makes no sense considering the bettor was immediately to your left. you were in MP, right?cutoff bet, button raises, SB calls two cold (!), you HAVE to raise here. no one's going to fold here. cutoff will call two cold or cap, button will call one extra or two extra or cap, and SB has already called two cold, there's no way he'll fold for another two.you slowplay when:1. you have a monster hand.2. people will fold to aggression.3. there is a strong chance that they will get aggressive on the next street if they aren't now.#2 and #3 were both not met.your opponents are already aggressive, and you have the second nuts. bet, raise, raise, cap here.aseem

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:27 PM

Thanks for the reply. I really thought if I 3 bet right away, I'd lose the button. Maybe I should have been less concerned about that. You're definitely right about the SB calling two cold. I should have known he had a big hand. I'm still learning, I know that. I've been making a good amount of money, but I know there are plenty of holes in my game. All the help you guys give on the forum is certainly appreciated.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:44 PM

109suited said:

Thanks  for the reply. I really thought if I 3 bet right away, I'd lose the button. Maybe I should have been less concerned about that.  You're definitely right about the SB calling two cold. I should have known he had a big hand.  I'm still learning, I know that. I've been making a good amount of money, but I know there are plenty of holes in my game. All the help you guys give on the forum is certainly appreciated.
thanks for taking the criticism in stride. reading my post, it might have come off as a bit harsh, but don't look at it that way. keep posting hands, you'll get a lot of replies and advice, but it can only improve your game. one of the biggest ways i've improved my game is by just sucking it up and listening to other people and realizing when i made a wrong play, etc.good luck,aseem

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:58 PM

check/calling when you have a full house on the flop is a leak.isnt it? 8)

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 03:12 PM

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check/calling when you have a full house on the flop is a leak.isnt it?  8)
only if checkfolding isn't, why would any one want to flop a boat, I just can't fathom why on earth you'd want that hand
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Posted 21 March 2005 - 03:35 PM

especially with quads on the boardget away fast!

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 04:05 PM

Absolute said:

check/calling when you have a full house on the flop is a leak.isnt it? 8)
i disagree, you have no draws to be worried about and you shouold wait till you get to the bigger betting rounds to raise

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 04:21 PM

That was my thinking, but after thinking about it more, I agree with aseem. Obviously both the CO and the SB had big hands , and I should have just 3 bet it here. One of them might have even capped it right there on the flop.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 06:26 PM

XXEddie said:

Absolute said:

check/calling when you have a full house on the flop is a leak.isnt it? 8)
i disagree, you have no draws to be worried about and you shouold wait till you get to the bigger betting rounds to raise
wrong, common misconception. actual truth: you don't maximize your profits if you slowplay, given the fact that your opponents are showing aggression and willingness to call two cold.aseem

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 06:39 PM

As far as your hand in relation to the board, if there were ever a spot to slowplay, this would peobably be it. Having said that, I do agree that both the bettors would've been more than willing to call your 3-bet, and possibly even cap on the flop, making slowplaying kind of useless here.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 08:18 PM

i never said slowplaying was wrongi said check/calling was wrongbecause it is

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 08:20 PM

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i never said slowplaying was wrongi said check/calling was wrongbecause it is
i know, i was referring to eddie's post.aseem

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 08:23 PM

oh my comment wasnt in reference to anything you said =)




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