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#1 obs

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:02 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is 3000 (9 handed) converterUTG+1 (17708)MP1 (63810)MP2 (64670)MP3 (61213)CO (21596)Button (95884)SB (14144)BB (35108)Hero (94060)Preflop: Hero is UTG with A:heart:, A:club:. Hero raises to 6000.Flop: (16500) Q:diamond:, T:spade:, A:spade: (2 players)Hero bets 11100, Button goes all-In 89884What do you do? You are covered. Fairly late in the tournament (about 50 people left, 1-30 is money).

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:05 PM

Well, is the button a type of player that would call a raise with JK or Kx suited?If not, you have to call. If so, I'd probably still call because I have seven outs to an absolute monster hand (6 to the FH, 1 to quads), and pick up another three if I don't hit on the turn.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:06 PM

1) What the hell are you doing raising 2x PF with AA? I guess you wanted a hand like JK to hit so you'd get some action.2) That being said, call.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:10 PM

Call and hope a spade or jack doesn't hit. Also, kick yourself for only doubling the blind. :)I wouldn't be surprised to see AK there or KQ.Peace,Jay

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:16 PM

tricky situation.but first, i'd strongly suggest to get out of the habit of raising minimum pre-flop. a raise to 7500 or 9000 would be much better, but i won't get into that right now.pre-flop, pot is 16500 about, right?when faced with the all-in bet, you have to call 76960 for a pot of 115660. you are getting roughly 1.5:1.possible holdings by the button, and how you rank:AdKsAQATKsQsKsQxKxQxKsJsQQTTetc.the worst case scenario is KsJs, against which you are 30%, so you would need a little more than 2:1 to call. against KJ with one or no spades, you are around 34%, so you still need around 2:1 to call.but would he push with the nut straight, possibly a nut flush draw or backdoor draw? maybe, it depends on your read.against QQ/TT you're a deadlock almost, as you are against AQ/AT and even AK.so it really depends on my opponent's tendencies. that's why getting reads is so important, they help you in marginal situations. given no other information, i would doubt my opponent already had the straight, and even against a pair + flush draw (KQ of spades), you're still a favorite. i would probably call, but it's a tough call.at worst, if he already has the straight, i still have a good amount of outs to split or to win.aseem

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:27 PM

Yea, I messed up the PF raise badly. Should have done at least 3-4x BB. The players were really tight at the time too (as you can see by the min raise putting me heads up), so that probably contributed to my bad play.Anyways, yes I did call and yes the button had KJo (neither were a :D). But then I got running 2's. Was my first tournament and I managed 11th out of 1500+. It was one of those free ones you buy in with party points so I only managed $18.75 for my 4 hours of work but it was still fun.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 03:01 PM

akishore i think you are being a little too elaborate for your own good here.two things in this hand are certain1) he should have raised more PF2) he has to call.no odds are necessary in justifying this call either.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 03:45 PM

I agree with the raising more pre-flop. I won't go into it any more because I know it's already been said. In your given situation, I'd probably call just because there are a ton of hands he could be doing this with besides the made straight. It could be a flush draw, A-Q, A-10, Q-10, Q-Q, 10-10, and A-K if he's really ballsy. If he has the made straight with a straight flush draw, you are in real trouble, but what are the chances of that? Call.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 03:50 PM

this really shouldnt have been a hard decision but you made it a little difficultif you woulda been smart and raised a good amount, not the minimum, KJ could not of called it therefore it would be easybut this is still a call situation




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