DonkSlayer 1 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 So, synopsis.Iran wants/is enriching uranium. They say for peaceful power, US and others say for weapons. Today was the deadline for Iran to stop before sanctions may be placed.OK.Iran is a sovereign country. Why, in all fairness, can't they make nukes, for energy or weaponry? We have them. Others have them. We didn't sanction India and Pakistan for having them (maybe pakistan for just a bit). They know that if we find out they sold one to a terrorist group, we'll turn their facilities into parking lots.They know if they fire one at us or an ally, we'll turn their whole country into a parking lot.So, at this point, do we need to place sanctions, piss them off worse and make gas go up to 4 bucks a gallon? Discuss. Link to post Share on other sites
keith crime 8 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 I agree other than that whole if we all die god will reward us point of view they have Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 wait, whats all this talk about wars? Link to post Share on other sites
Randy Reed 0 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Well, he.ll why not let everyone have a bunch of nukes? Especially the terrorists i'm sure they won't really use them. North Korea should have a bunch too.Are you serious?The world has been scaling back nuclear arms ever since the cold war and the majority of the world has agreed not to build more. Iran has a crazy zealot leader who threatens genocide on Jews on a daily basis and you could suggest it would be appropriate for them to have nukes?Anywho, with that said, if Nato, the major powers or both don't stop it, Isreal will. It will be difficult due to the fact that Iran has many underground facilities and moves them about to make airstrikes effective. Sanctions probably won't work well either since they can retaliate with vast amounts of oil and money.The best sitution is fuel the underground youth in Iran who oppose the dictatorship and want more freedoms. Link to post Share on other sites
dreamcaster 0 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 George Bush likes high gas prices. Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted August 31, 2006 Author Share Posted August 31, 2006 Well, he.ll why not let everyone have a bunch of nukes? Especially the terrorists i'm sure they won't really use them. North Korea should have a bunch too.Are you serious?The world has been scaling back nuclear arms ever since the cold war and the majority of the world has agreed not to build more. Iran has a crazy zealot leader who threatens genocide on Jews on a daily basis and you could suggest it would be appropriate for them to have nukes?Anywho, with that said, if Nato, the major powers or both don't stop it, Isreal will. It will be difficult due to the fact that Iran has many underground facilities and moves them about to make airstrikes effective. Sanctions probably won't work well either since they can retaliate with vast amounts of oil and money.The best sitution is fuel the underground youth in Iran who oppose the dictatorship and want more freedoms.We can do our best to convince countries otherwise. And, we're gonna know if "terrorists" get nukes. You can't just "move'em". The movies aren't reality. We would know where the nukes came from. We would solve the problem.I saw a news conference with Ahmenijahd last night. He's not a lunatic. He isn't a suicide-bomber turned president. Those Mullahs and him don't really care about worldwide islamic domination; they care about power. "Fueling the underground" isn't working...Iranians are more inspired in their country than they have been in a really long time. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 George Bush likes high gas prices.LOLi love Bush!!, I'm Pro Bush!! the canadian dollar hasnt been so equal to the US dollar in a brazillion years Link to post Share on other sites
insano 0 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 George Bush likes high gas prices.i heard he hates black people as well Link to post Share on other sites
mk 11 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Short article on Iranian capabilities: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060827/D8JOQED80.html Discussion of Iran and Political Islam. 4 months old, but on target. http://www.goldhagen.com/Pages/articles/Th...goldhagen031306 Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Short article on Iranian capabilities: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060827/D8JOQED80.html Discussion of Iran and Political Islam. 4 months old, but on target. http://www.goldhagen.com/Pages/articles/Th...goldhagen031306 He's good. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,768 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 George Bush likes high gas prices.But he hates black people... and kids.... and 'working' Americans....i heard he hates black people as wellDANG YOU!! We're not supposed to have the same sense of humor! Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 I would've already leveled Tehran if it was up to me. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,768 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 I would've already leveled Tehran if it was up to me.qft Link to post Share on other sites
ol'number7 0 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 We can do our best to convince countries otherwise. And, we're gonna know if "terrorists" get nukes. You can't just "move'em". The movies aren't reality. We would know where the nukes came from. We would solve the problem.we're gonna "know" they have them when they blow one up on Western soil -- I'd rather not wait for that Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted August 31, 2006 Author Share Posted August 31, 2006 we're gonna "know" they have them when they blow one up on Western soil -- I'd rather not wait for thatLOL...you must not have very much faith in our intelligence services...Why blow up Tehran? Seriously? Just to do it?I would be much, much more worried that North Korea would do something like that before Iran. That guy is a total nutjob, has no friends, and no hope for power/influence outside of the DPRK. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 LOL...you must not have very much faith in our intelligence services...Why blow up Tehran? Seriously? Just to do it?I would be much, much more worried that North Korea would do something like that before Iran. That guy is a total nutjob, has no friends, and no hope for power/influence outside of the DPRK.I thought the thread was just about Iran.I'd be fine with leveling both. Link to post Share on other sites
Oneeydjaq 0 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 LOL...you must not have very much faith in our intelligence services...Why blow up Tehran? Seriously? Just to do it?I would be much, much more worried that North Korea would do something like that before Iran. That guy is a total nutjob, has no friends, and no hope for power/influence outside of the DPRK.Thats very BAD intelligence. Link to post Share on other sites
ol'number7 0 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Donk, the president of Iran has openly stated his goal is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, that means destroy it, and thats not cool -- why would you give him the oppurtunity to give it a shot? And no, I don't have a lot of faith in our intelligence, too many PC roadblocks in our own country Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted August 31, 2006 Author Share Posted August 31, 2006 Donk, the president of Iran has openly stated his goal is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, that means destroy it, and thats not cool -- why would you give him the oppurtunity to give it a shot? And no, I don't have a lot of faith in our intelligence, too many PC roadblocks in our own countryIf you honestly believe there was worse than a 90% chance we would find out a nuke plot before it was carried out, AND you believe that Iran DOES NOT believe the USA would retaliate with nuclear attacks if Iran launched a nuclear weapon, then I understand your stance and would agree with it in your case.I don't believe any of the above. Link to post Share on other sites
hank213 1,824 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 The fundamentalist regime of Iran seeks not to procure nuclear weapons for self-defense. Rather, by becoming a nuclear power, accompanied by waning U.S. and European influence in the region, Iran sees the opportunity to become the hegemon of the Middle East. This is the necessary first step toward re-establishment of the Islamic caliphate, which is the ultimate goal. Furthermore, a disturbing lack of security protocol in India, Pakistan, and the former Soviet Republics lead to grave concern over the Iranian government's ability to secure a nuclear arsenal, especially when one considers how that government operates (i.e. the religious councils undue influence on potential political appointees and candidates). Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 ZOMG its Judgement day!!! Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 I read something the other day that the Iran leader wants to have a televised debate against Bush. That made me chuckle. Link to post Share on other sites
Jeepster80125 0 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 I'm surprised that WingNut didn't make this thread, or at least have some conspiracy theory about it. Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted August 31, 2006 Author Share Posted August 31, 2006 I've just become disillusioned with some aspects of our foreign policy...i think we're just being hypocrites.What's wrong with "mutually assurred destruction"? Especially when I know it really isn't mutual b/c I'll win? Link to post Share on other sites
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