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[Vade]

I've got 77 in the BB two people limp in for the 10 cents, and the sb goes all in for 1.75 (I just sat down so I have almost the full 10 dollars)Was I wrong to fold this?I figured if I called, at least one more would be priced in. They both get to act after me, I have them both covered.I just sat down at this table a few hands back, so I don't think reraising all in would have helped.

[holman3rd]

Vade said:

I've got 77 in the BB two people limp in for the 10 cents, and the sb goes all in for 1.75 (I just sat down so I have almost the full 10 dollars)Was I wrong to fold this?I figured if I called, at least one more would be priced in.  They both get to act after me, I have them both covered.I just sat down at this table a few hands back, so I don't think reraising all in would have helped.

Based on straight pot odds, I'd fold (assuming that the limpers would not call). Since I just sat down, I'd assume that the limpers would fold since their limp probably means they aren't strong enough to call a huge raise that's already been cold-called (by me). Since I know nothing about this player, I'm not sure if this huge over raise means an overpair or two overcards. First impression is that it means the latter. However, using a 50/50 chance at either, i'm a 2 to 1 dog, on average, with about 1.24 to 1 pot odds. At best (he has overcards), I'm a coin flip to win, at worse (he has overpair), I'm a huge dog.The key for me is that you said you just sat down. I tend to give opponents the benefit of the doubt (i.e., assume they are strong) until I see otherwise. In a cash game like this, I'm not willing to gamble in this spot.Now, to answer your question...I already said I would have folded. But, calling is not an option b/c 1) you won't get anymore info on the initial raiser's hand, and 2) you might be giving limpers odds to call. If I were going to raise, I'd make it about $3.50 to go. Given that, I like folding even more b/c what happens if he comes back over the top of me all-in? Now, I'm almost forced to call, as 35% of my stack is already in the pot.

[Vade]

That was my thinking as well.I hate starting a new table in a hole that probably could have been prevented.

[jayistheman]

there is nothing to think aboutthis fold is beyond easy.-u have nothing invested in the pot, therefore nothing to defend-no read-best case scenario is probably a race.

[jayistheman]

also, i dont think anyone else should be "priced in" to a 17x raise... thats pretty big. i would also fold anything up to JJ or QQ to this... jacks and queens would be a decision, but i'd probably find a better spot.... given a read, it would be alot easier to make a decision..... i really don't understand who someone would just move all in here... but the micro NL players are an odd bunch.

[holman3rd]

jayistheman said:

there is nothing to think aboutthis fold is beyond easy.-u have nothing invested in the pot, therefore nothing to defend-no read-best case scenario is probably a race.

response that is concise and too-the-point...i like it.

[jayistheman]

holman3rd said:

jayistheman said:

there is nothing to think aboutthis fold is beyond easy.-u have nothing invested in the pot, therefore nothing to defend-no read-best case scenario is probably a race.

response that is concise and too-the-point...i like it.

yeah.. i just realized that i basically paraphrased you...i didnt read your post before i wrote mine... :?

[Vade]

By the wayHe had 44, but I still felt it was a good fold

[akishore]

easy fold, jay listed the reasons.aseem