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[JaysonWeber]

Ultimate Bet 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Jayson is UTG with [Jd], [Jc]. Jayson raises, Jayson calls.Flop: (10.50 SB) [Js], [3d], [5h] (3 players)Jayson checks, UTG+1 bets, Button folds, Jayson calls.Turn: (6.25 BB) [Td] (2 players)Jayson checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+1 calls.River: (10.25 BB) [8c] (2 players)Jayson bets, UTG+1 folds.Final Pot: 11.25 BBJust wondering if I played the hand correctly... c/r a good idea or not?

[NormanHaupt]

CAP IT!

[wrto4556]

It's ok.I like to bet the flop, and if he raises, just smooth call and C/r the turn.

[KDawgCometh]

wrto4556 said:

It's ok.I like to bet the flop, and if he raises, just smooth call and C/r the turn.

I like this line, except I like maybe leading at the turn ot maybe induce a threebet from you. another approach would be to checkcall the flop and then lead the turn. Basically I'm trying to get in a threebet on the expensive street, if there's a way

[JaysonWeber]

KDawgCometh said:

wrto4556 said:

It's ok.I like to bet the flop, and if he raises, just smooth call and C/r the turn.

I like this line, except I like maybe leading at the turn ot maybe induce a threebet from you. another approach would be to checkcall the flop and then lead the turn. Basically I'm trying to get in a threebet on the expensive street, if there's a way

Yeah I was trying to induce a three bet by check/calling on the flop here. My reasoning for that was, no suited cards and no apparent straight draws to worry about, only 3 hands can beat me without runner-runner, thats AA-KK-QQ, other than Quads ofcourse but.. come on.So I wanted to appear weak/drawing, and I think leading out here instead of the checkraise on 4th might have been correct.... I feel he was extremely weak and I extracted almost as much as I could have here if not the max.. Anyone else think I could have played it better?

[Smasharoo]

You played it perfectly.Betting the flop and folding any hand sucks here, unlikely as it is. You're not vulnerable to much at all, if there's ever a time to wait for the turn, this is it.

[JaysonWeber]

Smasharoo said:

You played it perfectly.Betting the flop and folding any hand sucks here, unlikely as it is. You're not vulnerable to much at all, if there's ever a time to wait for the turn, this is it.

Exactly what I was thinking.. the flop was more than perfect and the turn couldn't scare me at all... there was just nothing that could really beat me in my eyes, so I wanted to extract what I could.

[akishore]

hmm, i seem to be against the crowd here, but...why only call the flop?i don't think leading out on the flop is a good idea with the nuts on a ragged unsuited board, and you don't want to risk having UTG+1 raising and button folding to two cold, so obviously checking is fine...but the button folded...so why slowplay? consider:1. you call. you lead out on the turn, UTG+1 either folds, calls (and calls the river) or raises, in which case you three-bet. this means UTG+1 has a strong hand and is giving you action. thus, slowplaying is wrong on the flop, because you're not maximizing your profits against a strong hand.2. you call. you check on the turn, he checks behind you. he has a weak hand, and you lost a LOT of bets.3. you check-raise on the flop knowing that it's heads-up. if he folds, oh well... you were unlikely to get action later on anyway. but if he three-bets you, voila. or if he calls, you lead out on the turn and river again. if he has cards, he will give you action so you maximize your profit, but if he doesn't have cards and wants to see a cheap showdown, you've maximized your profits considering the fact that he might have checked down the turn or called if you led out on the turn.i really STRONGLY think slowplaying the flop was a bad idea. checking was fine, but you have to raise once the button folds.really, these were the wrong conditions to slowplay.am i missing something??aseem

[Smasharoo]

2. you call. you check on the turn, he checks behind you. he has a weak hand, and you lost a LOT of bets. Happens about 1 time 50 asnd when it does, you're more likely to get the river bet called and have it work out exactly the same as a river fold.

[akishore]

Smasharoo said:

2. you call. you check on the turn, he checks behind you. he has a weak hand, and you lost a LOT of bets.  Happens about 1 time 50 asnd when it does, you're more likely to get the river bet called and have it work out exactly the same as a river fold.

am i still right in saying that this is the wrong situation to slowplay in?if it goes, check-bet-call, check-check, bet-call, you've only won 1.5 bets. this assumes he has no hand and just wants to see a showdown. if he wants to see a showdown, wouldn't you get more with check-bet-raise-call, bet-call, bet-call (3.5 bets)? if he folds on the turn, you've won 1 bet instead of 1.5, but that's the only case in which check-calling the flop maximizes your profit.aseem