set of aces against a flush draw

[KDawgCometh 2]

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP1 with [A ], [A ]. 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.Flop: (6.50 SB) [4 ], [A ], [6 ] (3 players)BB checks, UTG+1 bets, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.Turn: (9.25 BB) [T ] (3 players)BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, BB calls.River: (18.25 BB) [9 ] (3 players)BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, BB calls.Final Pot: 27.25 BBBB was loose and semiaggressive and utg+1 seemed to be a solid player(they were only at the table for at tops 20 hands when this came up). I put one of them on a flush draw and the other on two pair or an underset on the flop. Did I overplay this hand

[wrto4556 0]

um, hmmmm. I don't know about the turn raise. You have two people to act behind you, maybe it would be better to go for overcalls. calling the river is OK, the pot is gargantuous.

[KDawgCometh 2]

My feeling on the turn riase was to get the flush(if it was there) to show itself, if not then I know I'm way ahead as one of them holding two pair was likely too, or them holding a big ace

[akishore 0]

i don't like the pre-flop raise personally. you need to slowplay aces otherwise you're never going to get paid off when you hit your sets. [edit, i should add a SW to save myself :-) ]anyway, wrto, i think the turn raise was fine. he didn't have two people to act behind him, just one (big blind). since UTG+1 showing aggression on the flop, i find it hard to put him on the flush draw and rather i'd put him on TPTK, two pair, or a set. none of those hands would have a flush draw on the flop, so i would doubt that UTG+1 hit the flush on the turn. however, the BB was calling every bet and raise, so i would be afraid he hit his flush on the turn.i would still raise the turn because UTG+1 could now have a flush draw (with TPTK for example, backdoor on the flop) and you don't want him to see a cheap river. as for the big blind, if he three-bets, you have to go along for the ride in case you have the best hand and in case you fill up on the river. i think it's still a value raise because the BB could very well also have TPGK or something else, though it's hard to see what else he would be staying in with on such an action flop besides a flush draw.tough situation, but i like the turn raise (i might cap since UTG+1 is the one three-betting, and given his flop action, it's unlikely that he has the flush).the fact that the BB raised after you called on the river is scary... he was probably slowplaying the made flush, though why he wouldn't cap the turn after you called the three-bet is beyond me.tough situation, but i like the way you played it.aseem

[wrto4556 0]

My feeling on the turn riase was to get the flush(if it was there) to show itself, if not then I know I'm way ahead as one of them holding two pair was likely too, or them holding a big ace

Then when you are 3-bet you have to fold. Bad situation IMO.

[wrto4556 0]

My feeling on the turn riase was to get the flush(if it was there) to show itself, if not then I know I'm way ahead as one of them holding two pair was likely too, or them holding a big ace

Then when you are 3-bet you have to fold. Bad situation IMO.

Maybe. What did the grand poobahs say?

[akishore 0]

in hindsight, i think wrto is right. call the turn not because UTG+1 might have the flush, but because BB might have the flush.did you just reply to your own post, wrto? :-) aseem

[wrto4556 0]

in hindsight, i think wrto is right. call the turn not because UTG+1 might have the flush, but because BB might have the flush.did you just reply to your own post, wrto? :-) aseem

yeah, one of those days. :-)

[KDawgCometh 2]

My feeling on the turn riase was to get the flush(if it was there) to show itself, if not then I know I'm way ahead as one of them holding two pair was likely too, or them holding a big ace

Then when you are 3-bet you have to fold. Bad situation IMO.

Maybe. What did the grand poobahs say?

don't know. Haven't posted this hand there yet. I'll do it right now. Am I getting enough odds on the turn to see teh river trying to quad up or boat up with the tens(I don't think I want to see the six or four pair as I had a feeling that they would make quads with either of those, the six more likely being the underset)

[KDawgCometh 2]

well Aaron W. said, do I have a question on this hand(Him, Entity, ShillX, Isura, and Grunch Can are probably the best posters). so I guess that answers that from the poobahs, I'll post any comments from the others if they differ form Aaron's

[wrto4556 0]

well Aaron W. said, do I have a question on this hand(Him, Entity, ShillX, Isura, and Grunch Can are probably the best posters). so I guess that answers that from the poobahs, I'll post any comments from the others if they differ form Aaron's

So he likes the turn raise?

[KDawgCometh 2]

well Aaron W. said, do I have a question on this hand(Him, Entity, ShillX, Isura, and Grunch Can are probably the best posters). so I guess that answers that from the poobahs, I'll post any comments from the others if they differ form Aaron's

So he likes the turn raise?

guess so, he's the only one to respond and there are 17 views. So, I don't know. Guess it wasn't that thought provking as usually with that many views there's at least three or four responses. hmmm :think:

[Absolute 0]

you should have folded PF

[jack24bauer24 0]

You can't raise on the turn. You're into check and call mode after the flush hits. You could hit the full house on the river where you can raise then, but otherwise its check and call or possibly fold the river if its 2 bet to you.

[RonBurgundy 0]

you should have folded PF

:clap: :bubbleduh:

[jack24bauer24 0]

My feeling on the turn riase was to get the flush(if it was there) to show itself, if not then I know I'm way ahead as one of them holding two pair was likely too, or them holding a big ace

Then when you are 3-bet you have to fold. Bad situation IMO.

Maybe. What did the grand poobahs say?

don't know. Haven't posted this hand there yet. I'll do it right now. Am I getting enough odds on the turn to see teh river trying to quad up or boat up with the tens(I don't think I want to see the six or four pair as I had a feeling that they would make quads with either of those, the six more likely being the underset)

You'd be worried about making a full house and someone else making quads?lol.I guess you never bet your full houses out of fear.

[KDawgCometh 2]

well Aaron W. said, do I have a question on this hand(Him, Entity, ShillX, Isura, and Grunch Can are probably the best posters). so I guess that answers that from the poobahs, I'll post any comments from the others if they differ form Aaron's

So he likes the turn raise?

yeah, and so did every other poster. I've gotten like five replies to it so far