Gus_Herbert 0 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Guys, I got stuck in a really bad situation today playing in my regular$1/$2 No Limit cash game.I had about $260.00 in front of me. I called a raise with Q 9 offsuit against an early position raiser who was a tight-aggressive solid player, one other guy called and the flop was:10spades Js Khearts - giving me the second nut straight. The early position raiser bet out $15.00 (the pot was about $25.00 at the time.)and I raised to $35 total. The guy behind me called! (oh geez) and then the initial raiser came over the top of me all in for $170.00 more. So now I had to put him on one of these hands:KK, JJ, KJ, 1010, J10, or A Q. I really didn't think he had A Q in this situation and I thought he was trying to protect a big hand like trips. So I called the $170.00. Thankfully, the guy behind folded!So two of us were all in for a good $380.00 pot.Guess what he had? Ks Qs (King Queen of spades)He had an open ended royal flush draw. He was drawing to 11 cards for a win and 7 cards for the split.8 of spades on the turn and I lose the pot. Obviously my question to everyone and anyone is:Should I have folded the hand, protected my stack and not taken such a risk?I won't go on with my thoughts but instead ask for advice and suggestions from you FCP players! Please give me advice.Gus. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 He had an open ended royal flush draw.I didn't know as one could have an open ended royal draw...In any case, this is why you don't call raises with Q 9 preflop.Once you hit that flop, you're stuck. Link to post Share on other sites
Gus_Herbert 0 Posted August 22, 2006 Author Share Posted August 22, 2006 LOL sorry an open ended STRAIGHT flush draw.I'm tired, it was a rough day.and i know what u mean with the calling raises.before the flop even came i was like "If i flop a straight please let it be 10 8 J. please not 10 J k!and there it was, and there went my money.Even when i pushed all in, i said to myself "what a stupid stupid move"Trouble hand - troubling pot. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Guys, I got stuck in a really bad situation today playing in my regular$1/$2 No Limit cash game.I had about $260.00 in front of me. I called a raise with Q 9 offsuit against an early position raiser who was a tight-aggressive solid player,OK, I'll bite. You should fold here.one other guy called and the flop was:10spades Js Khearts - giving me the second nut straight. The early position raiser bet out $15.00 (the pot was about $25.00 at the time.)and I raised to $35 total. The guy behind me called! (oh geez) and then the initial raiser came over the top of me all in for $170.00 more. So now I had to put him on one of these hands:KK, JJ, KJ, 1010, J10, or A Q. I really didn't think he had A Q in this situation and I thought he was trying to protect a big hand like trips. So I called the $170.00. Thankfully, the guy behind folded!So two of us were all in for a good $380.00 pot.Guess what he had? Ks Qs (King Queen of spades)He had an open ended royal flush draw. He was drawing to 11 cards for a win and 7 cards for the split.8 of spades on the turn and I lose the pot. Obviously my question to everyone and anyone is:Should I have folded the hand, protected my stack and not taken such a risk?I won't go on with my thoughts but instead ask for advice and suggestions from you FCP players! Please give me advice.Gus.If you knew his cards for a fact, then you should certainly call. If you're concerned about losing your bankroll, then it's going to be tough winning at a particular stakes.Not knowing his hand, it's a little trickier. You're drawing to a split for all your money if he has AQ, which is a reasonable holding. If you're ahead, he has a set or a hand like the KQs that can often outdraw you. You're either a little ahead or way behind. So we need to be pretty sure you're ahead to call. The pot odds somewhat compensate for this. Link to post Share on other sites
Gus_Herbert 0 Posted August 23, 2006 Author Share Posted August 23, 2006 yeah i really should have thought about it more. I don't like putting all my money in with a hand like that when i'm an even money favorite or a big underdog. I wish i folded when he came over the top of me Link to post Share on other sites
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