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[Absolute]

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Jc, Ah. UTG raises.Flop: (7 SB) Ts, Qh, Js (3 players)SB checks, UTG bets, Hero folds.Final Pot: 6 BBDo you play this differently?

[wrto4556]

Fold preflop. call the 3-bet on the flop and fold the turn UI. If a K hits you would feel pretty silly for folding for one more bet, no? Or an A might get you ahead of KK, or another J would get you ahead of AA.AJo is dominated too many ways to make cold calling +EV, and you are getting 12-1 on the flop. Call that ish.On the turn you will be getting about 7-1 which is not enough in this situation.

[Absolute]

wrto4556 said:

Fold preflop. call the 3-bet on the flop and fold the turn UI. If a K hits you would feel pretty silly for folding for one more bet, no? Or an A might get you ahead of KK, or another J would get you ahead of AA.  AJo is dominated too many ways to make cold calling +EV, and you are getting 12-1 on the flop. Call that ish.  On the turn you will be getting about 7-1 which is not enough in this situation.

How would an A get me ahead of KK?IThe only way the call on the flop is correct is if my ace outs are good. I didn't consider them good with this flop.Thoughts?

[wrto4556]

Absolute said:

wrto4556 said:

Fold preflop. call the 3-bet on the flop and fold the turn UI. If a K hits you would feel pretty silly for folding for one more bet, no? Or an A might get you ahead of KK, or another J would get you ahead of AA.  AJo is dominated too many ways to make cold calling +EV, and you are getting 12-1 on the flop. Call that ish.  On the turn you will be getting about 7-1 which is not enough in this situation.

How would an A get me ahead of KK?IThe only way the call on the flop is correct is if my ace outs are good. I didn't consider them good with this flop.Thoughts?

Oooops. KK has an OESD.You're getting 12-1 on your flop call. That's enough to draw to the king alone. On the turn you have to fold UI (unimproved).

[KDawgCometh]

Absolute said:

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Jc, Ah.    UTG raises.Flop: (7 SB) Ts, Qh, Js (3 players)SB checks, UTG bets, Hero folds.Final Pot: 6 BBDo you play this differently?

yeah fold PF. Calling two cold with AJo is a leak, epsecially from an utg PF raise. Folding the flop is real bad because you have great odds to improve your hand here. In a perfect world you'll have four kings, two Jacks, four nines, and three aces. That's 13 outs, in reality your probably looking at nine clean outs to improve on a 12-1 call, bad fold

[jack24bauer24]

AJ is horrible, plain and simple

[Smasharoo]

Hero is UTG+1 with Jc, Ah.UTG raises, Hero callsHero lowers car window and throws bundles of $100 bills out to save time.

[NormanHaupt]

Hero then slams his 78 Chevelle into a brick wall and ends his life since he's obviously going no where.

[Absolute]

well shit.i thought i just misplayed a poker hand for 2 bucks

[Naismith]

Absolute said:

well shit.i thought i just misplayed a poker hand for 2 bucks

LOL.That made me laugh. Of course, I haven't slept yet.Peace,Jay

[KDawgCometh]

Absolute said:

well shit.i thought i just misplayed a poker hand for 2 bucks

well, it cost you more than that as you made a very foolish fold on the flop too. In SSHE Sklansky says that PF errors can be costly, but can be made up for by good post flop play. YOu didn't accomplish that by folding the flop

[Absolute]

=(

[KDawgCometh]

Absolute said:

=(

its okay, its not like I haven't made some bad plays or anything like that