Do You Value Bet This River Or Check Behind?

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

Villain is as weak tight as they get, but, he has a vendetta against me. In a previous hand, my set of turned quads against his flopped two pair and I laughed when he called me down with Q5 on a Q5663 board.1/2 NL (100 min/max buyin)Hero (200+..we have villain well covered)Villain has (120ish)Hero; 7 7 Folds to Hero in CO, Hero raises to 9(this is our standard preflop raise--I even got everyone to agree to it, heh..), SB calls 9, BB folds.Pot is 20 - rakeFlop is J 7 4 Villain checks, Hero bets 10, Villain calls. Pot is 40 - rakeTurn is 9 Villain checks, Hero bets 20, Villain genuinely looks frustrated and calls. Pot is 80 - rakeRiver is A Final Board; J 74 9 A Villain has 90ish behind.Villain is now mumbling to himself and checks, Hero ..? ..I genuinely thought that my 7 might be good. My concern, was, though, that he'd make a 'frustrated call' with the 8 or 10 of hearts, just to 'show me how bad I had sucked out on him', type thing. So, while I think my 7's not good, do I want to put in another 30-50 to have him push for his last 30-60 dollars? Can I call if he does push? Or is this a standard check?

[Scott3705 0]

Who are you???Before I give my thoughts, I'd share this tidbit from a live game two weeks ago 1/2NL ON a board of I bet w/ 33 , player looks genuinely frustrated, but calls. river He seems apparently really frustrated and checks, i "value" bet something like 10 into 60 pot and he calls to my suprised with a turned 3rd nut flush draw.With a four flush on board, I can't think you get calls from many non-heart hands for any significant amount of money. So if you're going to value bet a worse hand, you'd hvae to bet 20 or less which is just eh... All I can really think you can do here is possibly clean up that 8 10 . but if you think he's frustrated and may call, i'd be really worried to try to bluff out flush. I check this down most times.

[trystero 0]

Standard check...if he's bad enough to call you out with a counterfeited 2 pair, then he's bad enough to 1) act like he's weak when he's not or 2) call you out with the 2h.I bet a bit more on the flop, 3/4

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

Who are you???

The NLHE Strat Forum Prodigal Son is my full name, but, I go by Erik.

Before I give my thoughts, I'd share this tidbit from a live game two weeks ago 1/2NL ON a board of I bet w/ 33 , player looks genuinely frustrated, but calls. river He seems apparently really frustrated and checks, i "value" bet something like 10 into 60 pot and he calls to my suprised with a turned 3rd nut flush draw.

Many similar experiences, and yeah, I agree. I see a lot of people make frustrated calls with the Qh here, really.

With a four flush on board, I can't think you get calls from many non-heart hands for any significant amount of money. So if you're going to value bet a worse hand, you'd hvae to bet 20 or less which is just eh... All I can really think you can do here is possibly clean up that 8 10 . but if you think he's frustrated and may call, i'd be really worried to try to bluff out flush. I check this down most times.

I think I can probably fold a J high flush, by pushing here. But, I don't think it's worth the effort, with position..otherwise, I agree.

Standard check...if he's bad enough to call you out with a counterfeited 2 pair, then he's bad enough to 1) act like he's weak when he's not or 2) call you out with the 2h.I bet a bit more on the flop, 3/4

I agree..my flop bet was a bit weak.

[fckthis 0]

Seems a standard check is in order.

[tallytownFSU 0]

Check applies.You only get called by hands that can beat you.Yes..........I'm captain obvious!