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[Wily]

Inside the bubble in a $20 NL multitable tournament, you have 6500 chips and the blinds are 300/600 with 50 ante. Average chip stack is around 9,000You're dealt A Q on the BB. Girl from mid position with about the same stack size as you raises to 1800. Do you call, push all in, or fold?I pushed all in here because I play for 1st and needed some chips to have a good position on the final table. It turned out to be the right move PF, but I lost anyway. Should I have called and looked at the flop before pushing in?

[Dirtydutch]

No, I don't like a call there at all. I would save the bet for a better spot.With a stack like that, I'd rather raise with a weaker hand in an unraised pot, then call or move in in that spot.Dutch.

[Random Fluke]

I'd probably have pushed here too, unless I had some kind of read on the raiser that dictated otherwise. Short-stacked with big blinds closing in, it is time to gamble and you figure to be the favourite here most of the time.

[wrto4556]

Fold. Alot of people make that mistake in MTT. They feel that they need to make a move. You aren't in a rush, you have enough chips to not have to push here. You don't have enough to call and see a flop without putting you in a bad position, so I would wait and theif the blinds.

[The Dude]

I'd try to fold. I say try because while I know it's the correct move, I still find myself making the same move as you time and time again. It's costing you 1400 per round so you do need to make a move somewhere. It's just probably better to do it OTB or CO.

[TJ_Eckleburg]

If you push there you've really got to hope for the best and a no-call. The only hand the girl can CONCEIVABLY call with that you're significantly ahead of is AJ or KQ or something like that. And those calls are obviously incorrect on her part.The raise for 1800 puts you to a decision for all your chips. You can't call and miss, so you have to decide now or not now. It's too easy, far safer, and much more disciplined to just fold AQo for free. You most likely are slightly behind to a race (unfavorable), way behind already (very unfavorable), or, if you're ahead, not dominantly so. That's not how you want your options to look when you're playing for all your chips.

[Wily]

I thought there *might* be some fold equity in pushing all in, as the girl in MP had been stealing blinds a few times on my table. Unfortunately, she must've been thinking the same thing as me - that she wanted a big chip stack, and didn't care about busting out in 12th. After much thought, she calls, and turns over J K . She must've figured me for an underpair.Flop comes with two hearts and a jack. Turn is an ace, but river is another heart, knocking me out.My question is, how good of a hand would you need to push all in in this situation? AK? Pocket jacks or queens? From my experiences, you need to be at least in 5th chip position once the final table starts to have a shot for 1st. I made a move and it failed, but it would've even if I had AA in this hand.

[TJ_Eckleburg]

Collosally stupid call by her. I think to push all in there, you need at least a pair of tens or AK. The order of preference, from most preferred hand to least preferred hand, is as follows (assuming we didn't know what she had): AA, KK, QQ, AKs, AKo, JJ, TT. That's my opinion though, and if I had TT I'd think about it long and hard.