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[TeeSludge]

15 dollar buy in on PS with special blind structure. Blinds go up every 30 mins.

Button is chip leader and has seemed to play solid positional poker and seems to be a good player overall.

Hero is above avg. chip stack. Already into the money and down to about 70 players.

Seat 1: rolandbrelan (12057 in chips)
Seat 2: vindaci (72694 in chips)
Seat 3: Tremomey (28084 in chips)
Seat 4: 9Sandbagger9 (24429 in chips)
Seat 5: alitostar (43897 in chips)
Seat 6: dank4me (15450 in chips)
Seat 7: Barberland (18443 in chips)
Seat 8: kwolff (26512 in chips)
Seat 9: mookie43 (15910 in chips)
rolandbrelan: posts the ante 75
vindaci: posts the ante 75
Tremomey: posts the ante 75
9Sandbagger9: posts the ante 75
alitostar: posts the ante 75
dank4me: posts the ante 75
Barberland: posts the ante 75
kwolff: posts the ante 75
mookie43: posts the ante 75
Tremomey: posts small blind 300
9Sandbagger9: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tremomey [Kd Ks]
alitostar: folds
dank4me: folds
Barberland: folds
kwolff: folds
mookie43: folds
rolandbrelan: folds
vindaci: raises 1800 to 2400
Tremomey: raises 3933 to 6333
9Sandbagger9: folds
vindaci: calls 3933
*** FLOP *** [Qh Ad 5s]


What is hero's action after this flop?

[trystero]

Not as bad as it appears, as he raised from the button...so his range is a bit wide...I see him as CL calling your reraise with a lot of hands so as to outplay you post flop.

Sadly you're in a good position to get outplayed - or just crushed - with that flop. I bet out 8,500 and fold to a raise. Ideally you would C/R and try to force him to fold a weak ace like A-J or A-10; but you don't have enough chips to do that without being all-in.

[copernicus]

15 dollar buy in on PS with special blind structure. Blinds go up every 30 mins.

Button is chip leader and has seemed to play solid positional poker and seems to be a good player overall.

Hero is above avg. chip stack. Already into the money and down to about 70 players.

Seat 1: rolandbrelan (12057 in chips)
Seat 2: vindaci (72694 in chips)
Seat 3: Tremomey (28084 in chips)
Seat 4: 9Sandbagger9 (24429 in chips)
Seat 5: alitostar (43897 in chips)
Seat 6: dank4me (15450 in chips)
Seat 7: Barberland (18443 in chips)
Seat 8: kwolff (26512 in chips)
Seat 9: mookie43 (15910 in chips)
rolandbrelan: posts the ante 75
vindaci: posts the ante 75
Tremomey: posts the ante 75
9Sandbagger9: posts the ante 75
alitostar: posts the ante 75
dank4me: posts the ante 75
Barberland: posts the ante 75
kwolff: posts the ante 75
mookie43: posts the ante 75
Tremomey: posts small blind 300
9Sandbagger9: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tremomey [Kd Ks]
alitostar: folds
dank4me: folds
Barberland: folds
kwolff: folds
mookie43: folds
rolandbrelan: folds
vindaci: raises 1800 to 2400
Tremomey: raises 3933 to 6333
9Sandbagger9: folds
vindaci: calls 3933
*** FLOP *** [Qh Ad 5s]
What is hero's action after this flop?

I hate the preflop raise. 4k means very little to his stack, and even though hes not getting great immediate odds, he has position and can call with a ton of hands. I would push or smooth call planning to check/raise if no A hits on the flop, probably the latter.

Now that the A hits, youve got a major problem out of position. Any check or small bet looks weak and he can come over the top with garbage. A push only gets called by an A or a Q (sometimes). A medium size bet cripples you if it gets called.

I would check and hope the A scares him as much as it scares you and fold to a bet.

[Highlow16]

I would have made a little larger reraise preflop considering your position and the obvious, he can bust you. With both of your stacks he is definately getting the odds to call you in hopes of stacking you. I would lead at this flop. If you get resistance then i would say play the hand as cheaply as possible. You still have enough chips to manuever in this structure.

[BeaverStyle]

raise more pf... lead out on the flop, if he comes over the top, fold.... i think.

I think raising more pf will help in the future. I'm sure you've heard it before, but a good thing to remember is: Playing the best you can preflop makes your decisions easier postflop.

[copernicus]

raise more pf... lead out on the flop, if he comes over the top, fold.... i think.

I think raising more pf will help in the future. I'm sure you've heard it before, but a good thing to remember is: Playing the best you can preflop makes your decisions easier postflop.

how much are you going to raise pf? you need to get him under 2:1 odds to acccomplish anything, and that means committing about 10k to the pot, leaving 18000 behind and a pot of 21000 or so, and no room to maneuver on the flop. Plus you risk chasing him out on a hand you want him to play. I still like calling a bit better than pushing, and a lot better than raising more.

[TeeSludge]

I forgot I posted this thread so heres a bump to re-discuss although I think everything you guys have posted so far is good.

I made the raise that size to make sure I got a call because I wanted to play a big pot with this hand.

Unfortunately, I bet out 7.5k on this flop and after using his entire timebank he pushed all-in. I decided to muck and leave myself with 14k.

I actually don't like making a larger re-raise here because if he decides to call I leave myself very few options on the flop should an Ace come. Also, I'm less likely to get action from the wide range of hands that he could have here.

I actually did consider smooth calling here, however that leaves open the possibility that the BB calls as well.

Suppose I smooth call and we take the flop HU and the ace comes.. check/folding seems so weak against a big stack who could be raising the button with such a wide range of hands.

[copernicus]

I forgot I posted this thread so heres a bump to re-discuss although I think everything you guys have posted so far is good.

I made the raise that size to make sure I got a call because I wanted to play a big pot with this hand.

Unfortunately, I bet out 7.5k on this flop and after using his entire timebank he pushed all-in. I decided to muck and leave myself with 14k.

I actually don't like making a larger re-raise here because if he decides to call I leave myself very few options on the flop should an Ace come. Also, I'm less likely to get action from the wide range of hands that he could have here.

I actually did consider smooth calling here, however that leaves open the possibility that the BB calls as well.

Suppose I smooth call and we take the flop HU and the ace comes.. check/folding seems so weak against a big stack who could be raising the button with such a wide range of hands.

Why do you care so much about BB calling? youve got a monster and dont mind the action, and an A on the flop is going to slow you down as much with one player as two. Yes, you add some two pair flops to garbage hands, and maybe a few set flops to low pairs that will fold, but overall I wouldnt mind BB playing this hand and sweetening the pot.

You are probably about a 75:25 favorite against the raiser, adding a hand with the same calling standards as the rasiers raising standards (because hes got good pot odds) drops that to 60:40 (not much different than adding a hand that calls on the blind!) , but doubles your profit.