Zach6668 513 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I have no reads here, been about 3 times around, and I haven't got PT running yet, however, the table is pretty tight, and generally folding to my raises preflop, I'm just getting ready to leave :PPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)Button ($65.35)SB ($15.50)BB ($34.30)UTG ($49.50)Hero ($63.05)MP1 ($11.20)MP2 ($46)MP3 ($48.05)CO ($32.25)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A , Q . 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.5, MP1 calls $1.50, MP2 calls $1.50, MP3 calls $1.50, 4 folds.Flop: ($6.75) 6 , 6 , 3 (4 players)Hero bets $4, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $8, Hero raises to $16...Can we pull this move and represent the over pair here?Is this profitable?What type of player would this be ideal against.I pulled up the PT stats just after this hand, and he ended up being like 17/2/0 after 36 hands, but don't let that sway your decision, as I didn't know that at the time.The min raise here really felt like weakness, but a steal attempt if I have overs.Does anyone agree/disagree?- Zach Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 The thing is w/ him having position, you're usually getting called, and you are going to be forced to push the turn w/ ace high. Against a 17/2 type player, I'd say it's profitable and probably becomes less so against players who are 30/7.5. Link to post Share on other sites
crankin 0 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 While I'm a big fan of the c-bet, this is one of those places I don't like it. You've got three players left to act, and have a real good chance of getting called by at least one player. I'll probably get a lot of flack for this, but I'd check/fold this flop most of the time, possibly taking one off if there is a reasonable bet from one player.Granted, 36 hands isn't really enough to get a clear picture of this guy. The one number that is scary, is that, thus far, he's shown *0* aggression on/after the flop. In this hand, he's decided to get aggressive. I'd give him a little credit.Having said all that, against a lot of players a re-raise from a player is enough to take them off a decent hand. So, if he's just got something like TT, he might let it go.If I was guessing, I'd say he pushed. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 12, 2006 Author Share Posted August 12, 2006 While I'm a big fan of the c-bet, this is one of those places I don't like it. You've got three players left to act, and have a real good chance of getting called by at least one player. I'll probably get a lot of flack for this, but I'd check/fold this flop most of the time, possibly taking one off if there is a reasonable bet from one player.Granted, 36 hands isn't really enough to get a clear picture of this guy. The one number that is scary, is that, thus far, he's shown *0* aggression on/after the flop. In this hand, he's decided to get aggressive. I'd give him a little credit.Having said all that, against a lot of players a re-raise from a player is enough to take them off a decent hand. So, if he's just got something like TT, he might let it go.If I was guessing, I'd say he pushed.As stated in OP, we didn't have PT stats at the time. Overall table is tight/weak.I'm c-betting all day long into a board of 366. Odds are that everybody missed it.If it were 356, then I could see the case for a c/r. But with the paired board, it means it's way less likely that someone caught it.The way these guys were playing, I felt if he had a hand like 55, 77, even TT, I could probably get them to fold it to a reraise.I was playing quite aggressively, so if he has a 6, I'd expect a smooth call here, to get me to put more in the pot on the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I like it everyonce in a while because unless he has a pair of 6's or 3's he has missed this board. Not sure how I feel about this against an unknown though. Link to post Share on other sites
PimpRock 0 Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 I tried the same thing earlier, dude put me all in. Im pretty sure he had jacks or queens but couldnt be sure. As its a 10 handed table, Im gonna be honest and go with the check fold. You only have invested 1.50 so far, why go for more out of position with a nothing hand? You dont need to be outplaying people often at this level. Also, with three people to get through, its a bad spot to start making clever moves imo. Short handed, I would be a bigger fan of this but only with a great read on the opponent. Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now