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#1 Shooter_McGavin

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 11:33 AM

In NL ring games, a player will raise virtually every hand, often moving all-in preflop. When no one calls he'll turn up a weak hand. In fact when he is called he often is holding something marginal (say k9) and goes ends up going broke several times. Obviously, this player gets no respect and thus generates a lot of action. But then evenetually someone gets involved in a pot with him, calls his all in with say pocket tens and runs into pocket kings. What's happening is that the cheater is working with other players at the table, losing his money to them. Finally, when he gets a monster hand, he moves in and ussually gets a caller. Has anyone else seen this?
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Posted 18 March 2005 - 03:45 PM

Shooter_McGavin said:

In NL ring games, a player will raise virtually every hand, often moving all-in preflop. When no one calls he'll turn up a weak hand. In fact when he is called he often is holding something marginal (say k9) and goes ends up going broke several times. Obviously, this player gets no respect and thus generates a lot of action. But then evenetually someone gets involved in a pot with him, calls his all in with say pocket tens and runs into pocket kings.  What's happening is that the cheater is working with other players at the table, losing his money to them. Finally, when he gets a monster hand, he moves in and ussually gets a caller.  Has anyone else seen this?
That's a heavy accusation to make without solid proof, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you do have it. I agree that it does happen though. What limits were you watching this happen at? If it's micro-limits, I might be a little skeptical and just say the guy is a maniac having some fun.

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Posted 18 March 2005 - 05:12 PM

it's rigged, everyone colludes, also patter mappers are a must.
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#4 Shooter_McGavin

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 12:34 PM

allinbluff35 said:

it's rigged, everyone colludes, also patter mappers are a must.
Patter mappers? I saw this happening at 100 & 200 NL games. There is plenty of collusion. If you have 3 of the 6 players in the game sharing info, they can dismantle the table.
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Posted 23 March 2005 - 02:56 PM

Shooter_McGavin said:

In NL ring games, a player will raise virtually every hand, often moving all-in preflop. When no one calls he'll turn up a weak hand. In fact when he is called he often is holding something marginal (say k9) and goes ends up going broke several times. Obviously, this player gets no respect and thus generates a lot of action. But then evenetually someone gets involved in a pot with him, calls his all in with say pocket tens and runs into pocket kings.  What's happening is that the cheater is working with other players at the table, losing his money to them. Finally, when he gets a monster hand, he moves in and ussually gets a caller.  Has anyone else seen this?
I just can't see this as being a viable strategy with so many people at the table if you are referring to a full ten person ring game. Maybe I'm wrong.

#6 Shooter_McGavin

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Posted 23 March 2005 - 04:13 PM

This is at a 6 handed game. You have half the table coluding, sharing cards, raising pots. Even ten handed you gain a significant advantage. 6 handed you can dismantle the table.
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