SPADES21 0 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 This hand just happend like 5 minutes ago and was wondering if i played it right or if i could have folded and saved my stack. I dont see how i could have gotten away from it but any help or comments would be appreciated.Stage #469063242 Tourney ID 61045 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $150 - 2006-08-10 16:01:55 (ET)Table: 8558114 (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealerSeat 2 - SPADES21 ($4860 in chips)Seat 6 - ARFF ($2965 in chips)Seat 7 - REP0M4N ($5675 in chips)ARFF - Posts small blind $75REP0M4N - Posts big blind $150*** POCKET CARDS ***Dealt to SPADES21 [2c 2h] SPADES21 - Calls $150ARFF - FoldsREP0M4N - Checks*** FLOP *** [10h Ah Js]REP0M4N - ChecksSPADES21 - Checks*** TURN *** [10h Ah Js] [6h]REP0M4N - ChecksSPADES21 - Checks*** RIVER *** [10h Ah Js 6h] [2s]REP0M4N - Bets $600SPADES21 - All-In(Raise) $4710 to $4710REP0M4N - Calls $4110*** SHOW DOWN ***SPADES21 - Shows [2c 2h] (Three of a kind, twos) REP0M4N - Shows [Qh 8h] (Flush, ace high) REP0M4N Collects $9795 from main pot Link to post Share on other sites
gooch 0 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 This hand just happend like 5 minutes ago and was wondering if i played it right or if i could have folded and saved my stack. I dont see how i could have gotten away from it but any help or comments would be appreciated.Stage #469063242 Tourney ID 61045 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $150 - 2006-08-10 16:01:55 (ET)Table: 8558114 (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealerSeat 2 - SPADES21 ($4860 in chips)Seat 6 - ARFF ($2965 in chips)Seat 7 - REP0M4N ($5675 in chips)ARFF - Posts small blind $75REP0M4N - Posts big blind $150*** POCKET CARDS ***Dealt to SPADES21 [2c 2h] SPADES21 - Calls $150ARFF - FoldsREP0M4N - Checks*** FLOP *** [10h Ah Js]REP0M4N - ChecksSPADES21 - Checks*** TURN *** [10h Ah Js] [6h]REP0M4N - ChecksSPADES21 - Checks*** RIVER *** [10h Ah Js 6h] [2s]REP0M4N - Bets $600SPADES21 - All-In(Raise) $4710 to $4710REP0M4N - Calls $4110*** SHOW DOWN ***SPADES21 - Shows [2c 2h] (Three of a kind, twos) REP0M4N - Shows [Qh 8h] (Flush, ace high) REP0M4N Collects $9795 from main potHow can you not get away?You are beaten by 4 over sets, a straight and a myriad of flushes Link to post Share on other sites
nomad_monad 0 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 1. raise preflop - you're first in and you're on the button. don't limp.2. just call the river bet. on this board, no hand calls your raise here that isn't at least a straight. 3. there's a tourney section Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 This is generic enough to be tourney or cash.A basic tenet of NL HE is this:If you're going to raise with a hand that is not the nuts, do not raise an amount that only hands better than yours will call. Your push was ill-advised even if you had flopped a straight. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 1. raise preflop - you're first in and you're on the button. don't limp.2. just call the river bet. on this board, no hand calls your raise here that isn't at least a straight. 3. there's a tourney section4. do not f*ck with anyone named REP0M4N Link to post Share on other sites
nomad_monad 0 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 4. do not f*ck with anyone named REP0M4N nice Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafs 142 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 1. raise preflop - you're first in and you're on the button. don't limp.Really... raise preflop with ducks? I've always gone under the impression that you try to see the flop as cheap as possible with low pocket pairs. Absolutely anything that calls your raise is very close to a coin flip at worst. (except X-2) Chances are good that if you hit your set, you'll win a very good pot. If you miss, then get out.But yeah OP, bottom line is, you butchered the river. Link to post Share on other sites
nomad_monad 0 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Really... raise preflop with ducks? I've always gone under the impression that you try to see the flop as cheap as possible with low pocket pairs. Absolutely anything that calls your raise is very close to a coin flip at worst. (except X-2) Chances are good that if you hit your set, you'll win a very good pot. If you miss, then get out.you do (try to see the flop cheaply) if someone has already come into the pot preflop.but in this case, you're defaulting too much to pure hand strength and the odds of making our hand. you raise here not because of what your hand is, but because no one else is in, you have positional advantage throughout the hand, and even if you get a call your opponent will miss the flop pretty often and thus a follow-up bet will often take down the pot on the flop.plus, in an unraised pot where it's just the button and the blinds, quite often you don't win a big pot if you hit your set. if no one raises here their hands aren't usually very strong to begin with and it's rare in this situation that the flop hits so hard that you get a set and while your opponent gets a good second best hand he's willing to take all the way (something like 2 pair). unless they're bad of course and can't get away from TP crap kicker. most of the big pots you win with a set occur in a raised pot where someone can't get away from TPTK or an overpair. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 raise preflop, bet the flop, don't commit all ur chips on the river when the only hands that are going to call are a flush or a straight. Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Just call next time?You have the 13th nuts or so. Not a raising hand. Link to post Share on other sites
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