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[m1illion]

Would like some thoughts on this hand at a live MTT .
Second round - blinds are 25/50
20 min rounds
Relevant stacks
UTG ~4500
MP1 ~2300
LP ~5200
Hero ~3400

Hero is on the button

Despite the early stage there has been a lot of action and you have reads on many players at the table.

UTG - has over raised the pot on three occasions, 250 with blinds at 25/25. He’s gotten one caller each time and in every case his flop bet was not called. The pace/flow of the hand seems to point to a continuation bet and his opponents didn’t connect.. He hasn’t shown a hand but the overbets just don’t ring of strong hands.

MP1 – No reads other than he does seem to give real thought into his decisions. He’s folded a couple hands that have gone to the turn, maybe one river.

LP – Gambler. Young kid. Has shown A6o,Q7o, K9o has hit some flops and won some hands. He was one of the players who folded to a UTG continuation bet. He wants to play hands.

Hero – has played one hand, limped into multi limped pot and folded to a pre-flop raise.

Action

UTG raises to 250
Fold
MP1 calls 250
Fold
Fold
LP calls 250
Fold

Hero QhQd


What’s your play?

[TheCinciKid]

Stick in a big re-raise. Something in the range of making it 1500 to go sounds about right. I'm also tempted to just go all-in based on the (likely) crappy structure and the fact that you need to get chips so badly that 1500 almost pot commits you anyway. However, blinds are low enough now that I think I make it 1500 to go here and plan on going all in on the flop unless an Ace or King hits.

[Ramram84]

I would just call. Use UTG as a way to find out if anyone holds a decent hand. Rather than risk alot of chips by re-raising and more than likely getting at least one caller, I would just call and let UTG bet the flop which I would assume he would do as it's working for him/her. This will let you know whether or not mp1 or lp have made any sort of hand. If noone makes a decent attempt at the flop then I would make the big re-raise.

You can assume that at least 1 or 2 players hold an A and there is a good chance that one holds a K too. So make sure we dodge those cards before attacking the pot.

[matt21sz]

You MUST reraise in this situation. And with the amount already in the pot (800), the correct reraise in my eyes is all-in. A reraise to anything less is asking for trouble. If you were to raise to 1500, you'll be left with 1900. If you were to be called in one spot, there will be 3500 in the pot. Unless the flop comes AKK it's gonna be real difficult for you to get away from your hand with the odds given.

Push preflop...take down 775 in chips if everyone folds. You have the best hand here a very large percentage of the time. GL

[Actuary]

You MUST reraise in this situation. And with the amount already in the pot (800), the correct reraise in my eyes is all-in.

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Push preflop...take down 775 in chips if everyone folds. You have the best hand here a very large percentage of the time. GL

yes.
not close.

[m1illion]

I thought about calling here but I had to believe I had the best hand. I put in a raise and by the responses here and elsewhere It wasn't enough. I made it 750 to go.

UTG calls
MP1 calls
LP Raises 500

What do you do?

[Actuary]

I dont like my hand anymore.

LP looks like a slow played hand here.
Aware of the UTG tendecies to raise big preflop and he was trapping.

But we have a 3500 pot.

Well, obviously, push or fold.
We have so more info now.
them callnig your raise is not much info, but the LP concerns me.
However, some reads provided indicate he likes to mix it up.

Ahh... push this, try to get it HU with K90 guy in LP.

...as soon as I submitted..I had doubts
Play looks like a slow played monster. big time.

Lets move on.
If tough tourney, I can gamble here with the HUGE overlay.
I won't fault either play.
Just dont' CALL!

[mtdesmoines]

Would like some thoughts on this hand at a live MTT .
Second round - blinds are 25/50
20 min rounds
Relevant stacks
UTG ~4500
MP1 ~2300
LP ~5200
Hero ~3400

Hero is on the button

Despite the early stage there has been a lot of action and you have reads on many players at the table.

UTG - has over raised the pot on three occasions, 250 with blinds at 25/25. He’s gotten one caller each time and in every case his flop bet was not called. The pace/flow of the hand seems to point to a continuation bet and his opponents didn’t connect.. He hasn’t shown a hand but the overbets just don’t ring of strong hands.

MP1 – No reads other than he does seem to give real thought into his decisions. He’s folded a couple hands that have gone to the turn, maybe one river.

LP – Gambler. Young kid. Has shown A6o,Q7o, K9o has hit some flops and won some hands. He was one of the players who folded to a UTG continuation bet. He wants to play hands.

Hero – has played one hand, limped into multi limped pot and folded to a pre-flop raise.

Action

UTG raises to 250
Fold
MP1 calls 250
Fold
Fold
LP calls 250
Fold

Hero QhQd
What’s your play?

Anything less than all in and suddenly you've given all four callers pot odds opportunities.

[Squamch]

I'd make a fiarly large re-raise. I don't know about pushing in. UTG likes to raise, and LP likes to call. UTG likely folds, or maybe calls. MP either folds or moves all-in. LP probably folds.

If anyone re-raises, I think it's pretty unlikely that you're up against KK or AA.

[Zach6668]

yes.
not close.

Push.

Not close.

[m1illion]

I moved all-in before LP's chips hit the felt.

UTG calls
MP1 takes his time and he is more committed at this point than anyone. He calls but he is reluctant.
LP calls

MP1 turns over KsKc
LP turns over AsKd
Hero turns over QhQd
UTG has to be prodded to turn his hand over.
UTG turns over KhJh

nobody hits the board except UTG who catches a Jack.
MP1 gets paid but I outchip him by 1100 so I get paid too.
I only lose 100 chips.


My insta-all-in almost got MP1 to fold which would have been sweet but he decided that even if I had AA he was already committed and rightly called.

I agree that an all-in raise the first time around was probably the best move.
That's partly why I like this game so much. You can constantly re-evaluate and adjust your game when you learn something new.

[subsin]

you constantly re-evaluate? i constantly *****, lol