poker etiquette question

[digitalmonkey 929]

Is it appropriate to suggest to an opponent in the middle of a hand that we check it down for a better chance to eliminate a 3rd person who is all in?

[tekku7181 0]

no - thats the nature of a tournamentalso, its somewhat understood when a player is all in not to bet unless you have a good hand and even sometimes not then when its just the 3 of you involved

[Swift_Psycho 1]

Is it appropriate to suggest to an opponent in the middle of a hand that we check it down for a better chance to eliminate a 3rd person who is all in?

I play very rarely in live tournaments, so my opinion may not be worth much. However, I have to say that I don't think it would be "appropriate." If you flat out suggest it in the middle of a hand, it can be looked at as collusion to some. It is really just an unwritten rule of poker that you shouldn't be into a dry sidepot if there is a chance to eliminate a player to get into the money (or something along those lines). If it is early, there really isn't a reason to do this since eliminating the player won't have any direct effect on whether you make the money or anything like that.

[Vade 0]

Never actually say that during a tournament. Instead, just check, and not worry about it.

[wrto4556 0]

Never actually say that during a tournament. Instead, just check, and not worry about it.

And give them the "You better check, too" look.

[Rocketwadster 0]

How about the guy that could be eliminated (he is all-in) that is up against two guys on that hand. Would it be considered bad form for him to suggest to the people he is up against that they should bet at the pot, hopefully getting one of them to fold so the potential elimination is one on one rather than two on one? The reason I ask is that this past Saturday, I was all-in with 4 players left in a home game that paid only three of uswith pocket 3's (I was being blinded to death and had to make a stand either this hand or the next). Two guys called me, one with Ace jack offsuit, the other with Q 4 offsuit. I lost to the queen 4 when a four came on the river. They had checke dit all the way through (flop and turn helped neither one), all the while I am begging (in my head) for someone to bet at it hoping to get the other guy to fold, so I am only worrying about one guy. Had the ace jack bet at any time before the river, the other guy would have folded for sure, and I would not have been eliminated. So, would I have been out of line in telling these guys to bet at each other?

[jayboogie 0]

it's common sense in most instances to do this, the only way betting would be appropriate is if you have a really strong hand and are hoping your opponent has a decent hand to call you down with and you are able to extract extra chips while eliminating the player that is all-in. Of course, some players are stupid and will bluff at a dry pot or bet at it with bottom pair or something stupid like that. If your betting into it, you should have a set, 2 pair or a made hand already and at least top pair top kicker.

[Guest XXEddie]

no - thats the nature of a tournamentalso, its somewhat understood when a player is all in not to bet unless you have a good hand and even sometimes not then when its just the 3 of you involved

agreed with this one, you dont wanna bluff someone of a dry side pot, just doesnt make sense and is one of the studpiest things possible in poker

[Vade 0]

How about the guy that could be eliminated (he is all-in) that is up against two guys on that hand. Would it be considered bad form for him to suggest to the people he is up against that they should bet at the pot, hopefully getting one of them to fold so the potential elimination is one on one rather than two on one? The reason I ask is that this past Saturday, I was all-in with 4 players left in a home game that paid only three of uswith pocket 3's (I was being blinded to death and had to make a stand either this hand or the next). Two guys called me, one with Ace jack offsuit, the other with Q 4 offsuit. I lost to the queen 4 when a four came on the river. They had checke dit all the way through (flop and turn helped neither one), all the while I am begging (in my head) for someone to bet at it hoping to get the other guy to fold, so I am only worrying about one guy. Had the ace jack bet at any time before the river, the other guy would have folded for sure, and I would not have been eliminated. So, would I have been out of line in telling these guys to bet at each other?

If you're all in I'd imagine it would still be a problem-Antonio got a huge penalty for revealing hand strength at Bay 101

[Guest XXEddie]

How about the guy that could be eliminated (he is all-in) that is up against two guys on that hand. Would it be considered bad form for him to suggest to the people he is up against that they should bet at the pot, hopefully getting one of them to fold so the potential elimination is one on one rather than two on one? The reason I ask is that this past Saturday, I was all-in with 4 players left in a home game that paid only three of uswith pocket 3's (I was being blinded to death and had to make a stand either this hand or the next). Two guys called me, one with Ace jack offsuit, the other with Q 4 offsuit. I lost to the queen 4 when a four came on the river. They had checke dit all the way through (flop and turn helped neither one), all the while I am begging (in my head) for someone to bet at it hoping to get the other guy to fold, so I am only worrying about one guy. Had the ace jack bet at any time before the river, the other guy would have folded for sure, and I would not have been eliminated. So, would I have been out of line in telling these guys to bet at each other?

it wouldnt be...out of line, it would be stupidwhy dont you just say this"hey, i have a shitty hand. So instead of checking it down, why dont one of you bet so I have a better shot to win"thats saying the same thing

[Swift_Psycho 1]

How about the guy that could be eliminated (he is all-in) that is up against two guys on that hand. Would it be considered bad form for him to suggest to the people he is up against that they should bet at the pot, hopefully getting one of them to fold so the potential elimination is one on one rather than two on one? The reason I ask is that this past Saturday, I was all-in with 4 players left in a home game that paid only three of uswith pocket 3's (I was being blinded to death and had to make a stand either this hand or the next). Two guys called me, one with Ace jack offsuit, the other with Q 4 offsuit. I lost to the queen 4 when a four came on the river. They had checke dit all the way through (flop and turn helped neither one), all the while I am begging (in my head) for someone to bet at it hoping to get the other guy to fold, so I am only worrying about one guy. Had the ace jack bet at any time before the river, the other guy would have folded for sure, and I would not have been eliminated. So, would I have been out of line in telling these guys to bet at each other?

Frankly, I think this is kind of an odd question. I don't believe it would really be out of line to tell them to bet (since you are looking out for yourself and aren't colluding with anyone), but I don't really know why you'd expect them to listen to you. If you did it to me, I'd probably just tell you to shut up and let us play the hand since you're already all in. In a casino tourney, I'm sure you'd probably get some kind of warning, followed by a penalty if you got too annoying in goading people to bet when you were not involved in the hand anymore.